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    Thank u Tammy =)) I actually dont find myself too hungry...drinking all the water btw meals really helps and I snack on grapefruit. I am not 100% clean right now b/c I still use condiments, lite salt at times, splenda in my oatmeal, bbq sauce or panko bread crumbs on my chix but thats about it. So besides u feeling that my diet may be low in carbs..I was going to use this pretty much up to the end with some adjustments to the condiments and the veggies. does it look okay? ********** and what do I stack with it if anything? how long out from a show should someone use? I hope you dont mind answering my ques...I just love learning about fitness and nutrition...thx hun
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    You look GREAT! I'm sure you'll do well in your next competition.

    Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by somethinnicea View Post
    Thank u Tammy =)) I actually dont find myself too hungry...drinking all the water btw meals really helps and I snack on grapefruit. I am not 100% clean right now b/c I still use condiments, lite salt at times, splenda in my oatmeal, bbq sauce or panko bread crumbs on my chix but thats about it. So besides u feeling that my diet may be low in carbs..I was going to use this pretty much up to the end with some adjustments to the condiments and the veggies. does it look okay? ********** and what do I stack with it if anything? how long out from a show should someone use? I hope you dont mind answering my ques...I just love learning about fitness and nutrition...thx hun
    Some basic rules of thumb for cycling:

    - Don't experiment w/ drugs when you're very close to your show if you have no idea how you'll respond to it. Might screw up your whole prep.
    - Never stack anything that you've never tried before.
    - More isn't better. I.e. unless you're an experienced cycler with SEVERAL YEARS of lifting under your belt and your goal is bodybuilding, you don't need to be stacking stuff and frankly you don't need anything more aggressive than var.

    Standard anavar cycle -
    - 10-12 weeks
    - 1st 2 weeks at 5 mg var, split the dose in half , 1/2 am & 1/2 pm (read up on steroid half life for anavar) Var takes 2 weeks to "show" itself as it reaches "saturation" levels in your system . This lower dose lets you find out if you have any adverse reactions to the compound or if whatever you got is actually something else. If bad sides, you can just stop the dose.
    - 2 weeks + can up to 10 mg / day, split the dose in half. No need to go higher than that. Don't think that more is better. Beyond 20 mg/day, the sides start getting much more aggressive, including impact on your liver as anavar is a 17aa compound - it can affect your liver. Please read up on steroid profile for anavar and make sure you are familiar with all the possible sides.

    Please check all the posts on this forum - we discuss this topic (beginner anavar cycle) ad nauseum - there is a lot of information already posted.
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    Thx alot sassy...very helpful =))

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    Quote Originally Posted by somethinnicea View Post
    Thx alot sassy...very helpful =))



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    it has nothing to do with being hungry...those cals are way to low, and will hinder your progress.... and with 2 cardio sessions. noway! not yelling at ya, just less isnt better when it comes to food.
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    I am in NO way close to assisting you at the level these other gals who have responded are....so, that being said, I can say I'm in a mid stage for figure (competing in late Summer and again in Oct)....I am @ 1890 in cals and actually get slight increases for a couple more rounds (diet review and adjustments every 4-6 weeks right now)....my Protien is way UP 267gr per/d, Carbs 120, Fat 42 You may want to consider jumping your Cals by way of additional Protien. I used to be consuming minimal food (thinking the restrictions were assisting my goal)... and I was NEVER hungry....... got on my current program with a wonderful coach and he worked me upwards (mental and physical learning curve for me)....but now, as we work through this - I find I am HUNGRY when getting close to next meal!! Which is actually a good sign indicating my metabolism is begining to shift in and up!

    NPC - check the rules/regs for the comp you are planning on. The one I'm doing in Oct has testing and I am not certain Anavar would pass. Make certain you are clear with whatever you try so you don't put in all your hard work and sweat and then get nixed for something you didn't realize.

    Cardio - don't burn up that hard earned muscle girl!! Eat - Eat - Eat with enough cals to fuel you and build you but also get your metabolic rate cranking up there and you may find you don't need that level of cardio overkill.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by tammyp View Post
    not all gear causes verilization (manly characteristics). anavar is very common with the figure girls as well as nolvadex clen and t3.
    This is the short answer^^^

    Now it is time to study


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    I competed only once so far and my trainer at the time had me on about the same amount of cals im on now and I made good progress with wt. I have been doin interval cardio in order to reduce the amt of muscle loss. I'm not really comfortable with increasin the amt of carbs in my diet however i might increase the amt of protein. With var...I have always been a natty and no prob whatsoever with working hard. I was just curious about something that could boost my progress. If I was to deciede to take something such as V, i was going to do early on and by show time I would be past detection time.

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    detection time? you dont compete in the npc?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tammyp View Post
    detection time? you dont compete in the npc?
    Yes please clarify before I start on my rant about competing not natural in a natural or tested federation / show.
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    Whats that tammy?

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    Im not sure what you ladies were asking but I read that detection time for var is 3 wks and no I have never competed NPC. I competed in a different organiztion before. what did i say wrong? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by somethinnicea View Post
    Im not sure what you ladies were asking but I read that detection time for var is 3 wks and no I have never competed NPC. I competed in a different organiztion before. what did i say wrong? lol

    People are usually concerned about the detection time relative to being 'clean' when they do a tested show (i.e. testing for various controlled substances, which all AAS are considered) - which essentially means they're cheating, they just won't fail the drug test because they used the compound for their prep, but dropped it soon enough that its no longer in their systems to be detected.

    For definition purposes:
    - half-life: 9 hrs - the time it takes for half the active compound to clear your body. This is why it usually recommended to split your daily dose into 2 parts - am & pm - this would keep the amounts of compound in your system and the impact on all the associated functions in your body more level as opposed to clearing a lot of the daily dose, then hitting it with another dose - which your body interprets as a spike in the levels of compound in your system. Your body doesn't like spikes - it prefers keeping everything level and evenkeel with only small changes it can accommodate over time. In half is optimal, but sometimes you can't easily do that if you have e.g. capsules that doesn't split easily. So then you just go w/ 1 dose per day & live with it. Its not optimal, but its near optimal.

    - detection time: 3 weeks - in 3 weeks after your last var dose, it will be completely gone from your system.
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    yea this is what i thought. Ive been reading a whollllle lot on v, personal reviews, scientific findings etc and I keep finding the same explanation and answers. Most has been fairly positive for females if they dont go overboard with dosage. I havent really found anything negative about it, which I dont know whether to consider that good or bad. Everyone says this is the "safest" to take and least damaging.

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