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    I usually experience some anxiety for the first 3 days then I'm good to go.

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    Clen is easy... For a dude, work up to 200-400mcg/day (assess your own tolerance) for 2 weeks. Then 2 weeks off.

    I had 20mcg tabs, for my first go around, so i started at 20, and worked my way up to 180. Then the headaches were too intense, and jitters were way more noticable. Then ramped it down a bit to finish off the 2 weeks.

    Next go round, ill start at 100, and work back to 200, and then sit there for a solid week before tapering off. Not sure if you need to, but seemed like a good idea to me.

    Thinkin of runnin clen/t3 myself this upcoming run.

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    Fucking horrible advice. 200 to 400mcg a day? DON'T DO THAT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Electric_Road_Guy View Post
    Clen is easy... For a dude, work up to 200-400mcg/day (assess your own tolerance) for 2 weeks. Then 2 weeks off.

    I had 20mcg tabs, for my first go around, so i started at 20, and worked my way up to 180. Then the headaches were too intense, and jitters were way more noticable. Then ramped it down a bit to finish off the 2 weeks.

    Next go round, ill start at 100, and work back to 200, and then sit there for a solid week before tapering off. Not sure if you need to, but seemed like a good idea to me.

    Thinkin of runnin clen/t3 myself this upcoming run.

    Hey bro, people get a little excited around here when you say you've taken high doses of clen or suggest that others might also be able to go that high. Check out my helios thread. We are both from the RR school of protocol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Hyde View Post
    Dave suggests upping the dose every week or moving up untill you find your tolerance and sticking with it for 16 weeks??
    I was curious about this myself.... I did a search and found this article by Dave:

    http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/palumbo/steroids-and-acne.htm

    Ephedrine versus Clenbuterol

    What is your personal opinion on the long term effects of ephedrine and clenbuterol? What do you consider abuse or unsafe amounts? I was on and off ( mostly on ) the ECA stack for about 4 years. I have been off for 3 months. How long should I wait before I can start again for the upcoming bodybuilding season?

    Thanks for your time.

    Brian

    Clenbuterol is a much better fat burner (at 2-4 pills per day)-- too bad it's illegal! Clenbuterol also acts anticatabolically thus aiding in putting on muscle (a phenomenon especially noticeable in women). You must remain on the Clen for at least 6 months straight for the muscle building effect to become apparent(at 2-5 tablets). I truly believe that Clen's fat burning effect stops after about 4-8 weeks due to the decrease in the active thyroid hormone (T3). That is, Clen decreases T4 (inactive thyroid) conversion to T3 (active thyroid); therefore, you may want to include Cytomel or Triacana tabs in your Clen cycles (if fat burning is your priority).




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    Quote Originally Posted by juggernaut View Post
    What exactly is the reason for the taurine?
    it helps puts h2o back into your muscles ie;cramping

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    Quote Originally Posted by PYGMY View Post
    Hey bro, people get a little excited around here when you say you've taken high doses of clen or suggest that others might also be able to go that high. Check out my helios thread. We are both from the RR school of protocol.
    Def the RR school...
    If you cant take the heat... why bother being in the kitchen?! lol.

    Sorry people if I actually look for results. Thanks.-

    Sup Pyg?!!

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    Fixed that... Should be all good now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack of All View Post
    I use what Dave Palumbo recomends 40mcg for 2 weeks, 60 for 2, 80 for 2, 100 for 2, 120 for two. wait 2 weeks (I think) then restart.
    with ketofin?

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