Tren Hex? New Tren?

[GT]

WHo knows about Tren Hex? I know it has a longer ester than Tren Ace... But how effective in comparison is it? Tell me what you know about this "new Tren". How would you dose Tren Hex in comparison to Tren Ace with Test Prop? Feedback please...

[DR.BB]

Hexhydronenzylcarbonate? That would be the old Parabolan. I can’t comment on ug version these days or compare to ace-- I have been out of that scene for at least a decade, but tren hex as Parabolan was simply amazing and in a class by itself.

[GT]

Hexhydronenzylcarbonate? That would be the old Parabolan. I can’t comment on ug version these days or compare to ace-- I have been out of that scene for at least a decade, but tren hex as Parabolan was simply amazing and in a class by itself.

That's exactly what it is. Tell me more about Parabolan. Doses and experiences.. Any reccomendations for use w. Test prop?

[Anthony]

great stuff - text book reccomendation is to not use this as your first tren experience as it takes a while to clear your system - can't stop bad sides quickly. I took the chance and it worked great for me.

Used 400 mg/wk, 2 shots per week. No horrible sides, decent strength increase. Ran for 8 weeks - back half of cycle started with deca + test.

Probably better to stack with test e or c since they have similar half lives - prop will clear much faster than tren hex.

[DR.BB]

Back in the day, I remember it came in a low dose vial and people used 200-300mg a week with great results. You may think I am BSing but my friend took it (along with long term GH, test) and his bench went from 400 to 500. I prefer long esters.

[Dragon_MD]

Tren enanthate is just as good. And WAY cheaper.

[MrOXY]

im a tren ace junkie and have used it in most if not every cycle ive used , some reason im a tren ace side affect non responder but when i use tri tren and longer esters of tren all teh sides came , tren caugh, night sweats, wierd dreams aahah TREN IS THE FUKING BOMB !!!

[jacshelb]

Is it just me or do the sides with Tren reduce as the ester gets longer acting? With Tren ace I would get bad night sweats, some anxiety, fucked up dreams etc using around 300 mg per week. But, with tren enth at 500 mg/week the sides don't seem as severe. Opinions?

[Dragon_MD]

Is it just me or do the sides with Tren reduce as the ester gets longer acting? With Tren ace I would get bad night sweats, some anxiety, fucked up dreams etc using around 300 mg per week. But, with tren enth at 500 mg/week the sides don't seem as severe. Opinions?

That's the way it is with me.

Want to know something scary. I have had congestive heart failure for a while. I just didn't know it, though there were sides. I was running this:

Test E 200mg eod
Deca 100mg eod
NPP 50mg eod
HGH 8iu ED
IGF-1Lr3 40mcg 2x a day
Slin 12 iu PWO

I was feeling great, out side of other symptoms I have had for over 2 years. I stopped the deca and NPP for a week and ad tren E at only 100eod. In that 3 weeks time, my health got so bad I ended up in the hospital completely out of breath just sitting there. Now this was the first time I had ran any tren in about 2 years do to a motorcycle accident thatleft me pretty messed up for a while. That was when They did the echo and EKG and diagnosed me with CHF.

Just some food for thought. Not blaming it on the tren, but it surely made it much worse very rapidly.

[jacshelb]

That's the way it is with me.

Want to know something scary. I have had congestive heart failure for a while. I just didn't know it, though there were sides. I was running this:

Test E 200mg eod
Deca 100mg eod
NPP 50mg eod
HGH 8iu ED
IGF-1Lr3 40mcg 2x a day
Slin 12 iu PWO

I was feeling great, out side of other symptoms I have had for over 2 years. I stopped the deca and NPP for a week and ad tren E at only 100eod. In that 3 weeks time, my health got so bad I ended up in the hospital completely out of breath just sitting there. Now this was the first time I had ran any tren in about 2 years do to a motorcycle accident thatleft me pretty messed up for a while. That was when They did the echo and EKG and diagnosed me with CHF.

Just some food for thought. Not blaming it on the tren, but it surely made it much worse very rapidly.

Man, that is scary. Anything to do with heart problems freaks me out. Seems so many of us who do experience some health problems usually have them in this area.

So, what happened with that? And what precautions are you taking now to prevent a reoccurance?

Thanks.

[Dragon_MD]

Well, there is no reoccurance. I have CHF now for ever. My ejection fraction is only 20%. I am currently on 5 heart med plus asprin, Inspra, Lasix, digoxin, coreg, and lisinipril. I basically have 5 3 and a half more months to shoe an improvement in my ejection fraction from the meds and a completely sodium free diet. After 6 weeks I showed no improvement. If no improvement, I will get an ICD, internal defibrillator(shock box). If I get worse over time, I will need a heart transplant.

I know one thing, though it is still debatable. The hearts muscle contains addrogen receptors, and does hypertrophy at a much greater rate with higher levels of exogenous AAS use. In my case, the muscle grew so large that it is unable to pump efficiently. This in turn cause the blood to back up and cause extreme shortness of breath and fatigue. I am curently unable to work, and considered fully disabled. I just hope that the meds work and things turn around.

[ccn916]

Well, there is no reoccurance. I have CHF now for ever. My ejection fraction is only 20%. I am currently on 5 heart med plus asprin, Inspra, Lasix, digoxin, coreg, and lisinipril. I basically have 5 3 and a half more months to shoe an improvement in my ejection fraction from the meds and a completely sodium free diet. After 6 weeks I showed no improvement. If no improvement, I will get an ICD, internal defibrillator(shock box). If I get worse over time, I will need a heart transplant.

I know one thing, though it is still debatable. The hearts muscle contains addrogen receptors, and does hypertrophy at a much greater rate with higher levels of exogenous AAS use. In my case, the muscle grew so large that it is unable to pump efficiently. This in turn cause the blood to back up and cause extreme shortness of breath and fatigue. I am curently unable to work, and considered fully disabled. I just hope that the meds work and things turn around.

My grandfather had triple bypass hear surgery eight years ago and had a pace maker put in. He has had congestive heart failure for maybe the whole time but at least a while. He was a heavy smoker(three packs a day unfiltered). Hes almost 80 now. I guess I'm just saying that I hope you pull through and that I'm sure you can. Considering he never lived a healthy lifestyle and has been pullin through now for quite a while and he is most likely much older than you. Maybe its not my place I just wanted to give you a pep talk.