Darkstars First Cycle

[Darkstar]

Hey everyone, I've decided to step up my game a bit and adding some mass with AAS. Just some info: I'm 31, 5'7 and 170lbs @ 12-14% BF.

My cycle will consist of min 8 week 250g test cyp and 150mg deca E3D with arimidex. PCT will consist of 2 weeks HCG and Clomid. (To follow Daves PCT).

I would like some opinions please and make sure I'm on the right track. I do have a trainer and am currently at the DR. Waiting to go for blood work before I start. As I said, this is my first cycle and looking to put on a few lbs of lean mass. Thanks.

[rw0885]

cycle looks good. 500 mgs/week of test and 300 mgs/week of deca. for a first cycle i would say drop the deca, but what the hell, if you got it...use it. glad to see your pct is in order, most people just seems to think that only running nolvadex will sufice. the only thing i would suggest is to run it 10 weeks. and would also say to wait at least one week after your last injection before starting your pct.

[IzlamikPork]

Looks good. I'd up the test and deca, though. 400mg test and 200 deca.

[ypmm5]

cycle looks good. 500 mgs/week of test and 300 mgs/week of deca. for a first cycle i would say drop the deca, but what the hell, if you got it...use it. glad to see your pct is in order, most people just seems to think that only running nolvadex will sufice. the only thing i would suggest is to run it 10 weeks. and would also say to wait at least one week after your last injection before starting your pct.

I concur with this brother.

[fitnessfirst]

I concur with this brother.

Also in agreement. My first cycle was Test and Deca, and I remember being worried that 500wk was way to much for my first time. It was not at all. A wonderful experience. As long as you keep a 2:1 ratio of T to Deca, your sexual function will also be intact. Good luck.

[IzlamikPork]

My very first cycle was 400mg of test-e and 400mg of deca a week, and the only effect it had on my libido was to send me into the stratosphere. I went from happy-with-once-a-month to 10 or 12 times a day. No dreaded deca-dick at all.

[Darkstar]

Good to know, I was concerned with "deca dick" but there's only one way to find out.. I am going to try to find some Aromasin instead of the Arimidex, I'll go with Arimidex if its the only thing I can get. Thanks guys.

[rw0885]

look at chemoneresearch.com...for lab studies of course.

[s2h]

i would run the test only since it's your 1st cycle,go w/ a 1/2 cc(150mg) EOD and see how your body reacts.If all is well(no gyno,bad sides)then run the deca.I'm a bigger fan of EQ w/ this cycle but you gotta use what you got.As far as AI's .05 EOD should be fine,if you start geting sides up it.One thing i think every first time user should have is some letro just incase things go the wrong direction.I also would recommend taking your supps EOD for stable levels,good luck!

[Darkstar]

I had wanted to do EQ, maybe my next one. I will also look into the letro, thanks.

As far as chemoneresearch goes, I'm north of the border and they wont ship here.

[MrOXY]

No test under 600 mg 4 me no thanks ...
Test 750 week range
deca min 400 mg per week

[Darkstar]

Doesn't dosing reflect ones size? Someone who is 230lbs would require a larger dose than someone who's say 165-170lbs?

[Bigphil]

test 500mgs deca 200mgs i wait two weeks after my last shot before i start pct

[rw0885]

Doesn't dosing reflect ones size? Someone who is 230lbs would require a larger dose than someone who's say 165-170lbs?

this is not true, its bro-logic. your results you get from test are dose dependant. meaning the more test, the more results, it has nothing to do with your begining weight. there was a test done with subjects recieving somewhere around 200 mgs/week and 400-600 mgs/week, and the higher dose recieved the most gains, now this doesnt mean that a begginer needs to be running a gram of test per week...that study is posted up under testosterone in the chem profiles page, i suggest reading it.

[data]

You are shooting about 600mg of testosterone per week with 350mg of deca per week for a total of just over 900mg/wk.

That seems excessive. My first cycle was two 100mg shots of test prop per week and six weeks later I was up 22lbs. Back in '95 when I first started taking steroids a guy would pick up 10 amps of sustanon, shoot one a week, and ten weeks later you were up 15-20lbs if you knew how to eat.

Anyways bro if you want to stick with a 900mg/wk total I'd just shoot 250mg of test cypionate EOD for 8-12 weeks, take 8-12 weeks off, and start up the cycle you have outlined above. That way you can at least see how deca works for you.

Guys today stack so many different drugs when they first start they have no idea what works for them or what does not.

Just my two cents but I don't know much.