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    ok just looked at ur cycle again, i would switch the tren E for tren ace, I've run both and ace is sooo much better. also i wouldn't cut the test back to 250 at the end. Either leave at 1g, which u should do, or just cut it out completely. If you're gonna keep running test, i would run arimidex at 1mg/day the last 4 wks. And the halo, you really only need to run the last 10-14 days, that shit makes you full and vascular real quick but is really harsh on your liver. I ran 30mg the last 10 days before my show and i saw great results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duncanlukas View Post
    theres no way ur 10 percent in that pic...look more like 13-15....u look good though, you'll look great once you get shredded. I would cut out the abombs. There's really no reason to run dbol/abombs while your dieting, they're just gonna make you hold water. Ya, you'll stay strong in the gym but you don't need them. As far as your other doses go, i see no problem, if anything run more.

    You are probably right, but I think he's just holding a lot of water too and that's contributing to that look. I mean he could be 12% looking like 14-15% because of the water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Con View Post
    Well come into the present and leave the past behind dude that was years ago and they certainly were not using that kind of dose.

    At the end of the day do what you like but if you need that kind of a dose to be a middle weight at 5ft7 which is pretty small in my books. The best middle weights are 5ft5 and under usually. Then perhaps you need to look at your genetics and ask if you are in the right game.
    good call!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rw0885 View Post
    dude, you just contradicted yourself...telling con "How do you know what they were using? Those olympians were the best of the best and were extremely driven. They would have used whatever had been at their disposal to get to where they are." and then telling me "There's a lot more than anabolics being used these days. What pros have at their today isn't what they had 30 years ago. You can see the dramatic change in physiques once hGH became cheap and insulin came into the game." for one gH still hasnt became cheap, and two...insulin isnt the only new thing that the pros are on. and this statement "Don't get me wrong 2-3g of gear a week to come in at 5'7" at 176 with shredded glutes is a lot. However it's not an unheard or even that uncommon of a dose." is just completely obsurd...using 2-3 grams worth of gear to come in at 5'7'' and 176 ripped is absolutley rediculous. a friend of mine is 5 weeks out from a show using 500 mgs/week of test, and 75 mgs/eod of tren and his seratus, hams, and glutes are already showing. hes 5'7'' and about 185. people are in this mindset that bodybuilders look the way they do just because of AAS, and thats not the case...most people dont realize all the other shit that one must do to be in top condition for a show, aas use is just one small step in that effort. and more gear is not always better.
    ^^^good post

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    Quote Originally Posted by duncanlukas View Post
    theres no way ur 10 percent in that pic...look more like 13-15....u look good though, you'll look great once you get shredded. I would cut out the abombs. There's really no reason to run dbol/abombs while your dieting, they're just gonna make you hold water. Ya, you'll stay strong in the gym but you don't need them. As far as your other doses go, i see no problem, if anything run more.
    Bro i'm just been real not tryn to bust your ass,listen to Duncan and others on that cycle,you look prettty young,good frame,no glaring weakness and you have good potential,but more is not better and that cycle is a bit much.I would make the changes Duncan suggests.And man you are not 10%,unless you have a high metabolism?? you better stop worrying about your cycle so much and hit that treadmill if you want those glutes your talkn about.My first show was at MW i was almost the exact same size/wieght as you 12-13 weeks out and came in soft from behind because i thought drugs would do it and didnt do what i really needed CARDIO!Good luck take eveyones comments as help not negative criticism,k!

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    good lord...that looks like one of jimmy the bull's cycles from the 90's.

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    lol..he's really not running that much stuff, some of your guys are ridiculous. This is bodybuilding, if you're intimidated or scared by drug use, then go be a natty or something.

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    ok cool everyone has their ways of doing things. hopefully my way will yeild the results im looking for, thanks for everyones input

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    Yea man good structure definately have potential. I guess as long as your checking your bloodwork and your not messing yourself up too bad more power to you. My last show i was a light heavy and only used 400 mgs of Testosterone w 200 mgs of primo the whole way up and then the last 4 weeks i did 75 mgs of mast every other day and 25 mcg of t3. I won eight class in the novice and the overall. I think you could achieve a great look without suck risk to your health this early in the game but ultimately the decision is up to you. Best of luck man.

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    btw quads are gonna look nice when you get harder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -sic- View Post
    Ok wanted some input from you guys, im preping for my first show 13wks out. 5'7" 200lbs 10%

    Testosterone Enanthate 1000mg/wk- 10weeks
    EQ 600mg/wk-10weeks
    Trenbolone Enanthate 500mg/wk-8weeks
    Anadrol 50mg/day- 4weeks
    Masteron 100mg EOD- last 6weeks
    Winstrol oral 50mg/day- last 6weeks
    Halotestin 20mg/day last 3weeks

    droping test to 250mg/wk last 3wks

    anything to add or take out? any input or suggestion is appreciated!
    u should drop test all together 2 weeks before your show but you can stay on other compounds up to 5 days prior to the show.

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    Sic,

    Post some pics as you get closer to your competition!

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    cycle looks great

    i personally would do:

    800mg test e/week
    gh 5iu/day
    proviron 50mg/day
    150 primo eod
    150 masteron eod
    70 mg stanozolol/day
    clen from 80 mcg t0 160 mcg all the way to the show

    no tren for me because i'd like to keep my gf



    Quote Originally Posted by -sic- View Post
    Ok wanted some input from you guys, im preping for my first show 13wks out. 5'7" 200lbs 10%

    Testosterone Enanthate 1000mg/wk- 10weeks
    EQ 600mg/wk-10weeks
    Trenbolone Enanthate 500mg/wk-8weeks
    Anadrol 50mg/day- 4weeks
    Masteron 100mg EOD- last 6weeks
    Winstrol oral 50mg/day- last 6weeks
    Halotestin 20mg/day last 3weeks

    droping test to 250mg/wk last 3wks

    anything to add or take out? any input or suggestion is appreciated!

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    IMO, u need to cut the test out sooner due to water, and add more hardening agents. here is my current contest cycle Starting 90 days out:

    Test Enth 1cc/Every 3 days - drop 45 days out
    EQ 1cc/Every 3 days
    Masteron 1cc EOD - 60 days out
    Tren Ace 1cc EOD - 60 days out
    Winny 50mg/day - 60 days out
    Tbol 30 mg/day - 60 days out
    Anavar 30mg/day - 60 days out
    Armidex 1 tab/day - 60 days out
    Proviron 1 tab/day - 60 days out
    Clen .50mcg/ Day 2 on 2 off
    5ius of HGH 5 on 2 off

    I am 6"2 260 currently, started this cycle March 1. I dont think you are using too much, maybe just too long on some, especially the test, just my oppionion though

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    Quote Originally Posted by duncanlukas View Post
    lol..he's really not running that much stuff, some of your guys are ridiculous. This is bodybuilding, if you're intimidated or scared by drug use, then go be a natty or something.
    true but you only have so many receptors to intake so much gear,as you take more gear you gain more receptors/muscle ,but ay 200lbs he's wasting his money and gear w/ those amounts,ask HI??

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