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    ok guys, im not "under muscled" those are pics cold, unflexed, shitty camara, no lighting. My diet is pefect here.



    Ok i do cardio 5 days for 30 mins low intesity and i will not do clen this year. Maybe at 18 or 17, that was just a post i wrote when i was drunk. But i will try out oxyelite pro by usplabs.

    edit: minus the corn, mr oxy wanna stop negging me, kthanx

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe d View Post
    there are a lot of negative effects. you can find them on a google search. the main one within this community whis doesnt apply as much in this case is its poor effects on the cardiovascular system. high fat diets arent good for your health even if they are healthy fats. they are bad for your heart. grains are verry good for your heart.

    so in the typical aplication on these boards you are taking a guy that is already stressing is cardiovascular health with intense weight training and steroids then adding a shit load of fat to his diet while stripping one of the best things he has going for him. a constant supply of whole grains. and often on top of that taking stimulants which add even more risk. when you add it all up i think its a heart attack waiting to happen.

    but back to the relevance here. at 16 you are still growing and developing. a body at this stage needs a well balanced diet. keto is the farthest thing from well balanced around. at 16 daily cardio even 2x per day is where its at with lots of quality whole foods.
    not trying to bash on you but evidence shows that low levels of insulin(higher fat/low carb diets) are much better on lipid profiles. Below is a study showing the results.

    On the other hand yes you have no muscle and clen isnt necessary

    http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/l...-low-fat-diet/

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    Quote Originally Posted by k-dawg View Post
    not trying to bash on you but evidence shows that low levels of insulin(higher fat/low carb diets) are much better on lipid profiles. Below is a study showing the results.

    On the other hand yes you have no muscle and clen isnt necessary

    http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/l...-low-fat-diet/

    no problem. i dont feal bashed. there are pros and cons in both. i personally find the cons out weigh the pros with keto. but in whatever your chioce dont disregard the negatives just because of a posative. you have to take it all into consideration.

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    The cons of keto isn't that it is very unhealthy, the con is the great drop in strength. it is very depressing, i pefer just to eat moderate carbs. Dave talks as though being in ketosis is the only way to lose weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Atlas View Post
    The cons of keto isn't that it is very unhealthy, the con is the great drop in strength. it is very depressing, i pefer just to eat moderate carbs. Dave talks as though being in ketosis is the only way to lose weight.
    It's definitely not the only way to diet - but I have to tell you that my strength increased on the keto diet up until 6 weeks out from contest. The only reason it didn't keep increasing was because I had a shoulder injury. I do think it puts some people in the dirt strength wise, but I'm not one of those people.

    Everyone is different - the trick is finding what works for YOU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SallyAnne View Post
    It's definitely not the only way to diet - but I have to tell you that my strength increased on the keto diet up until 6 weeks out from contest. The only reason it didn't keep increasing was because I had a shoulder injury. I do think it puts some people in the dirt strength wise, but I'm not one of those people.

    Everyone is different - the trick is finding what works for YOU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by s2h View Post
    please dont ever change your avatar....wow!
    I was gonna say great ass

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eriv View Post
    ok here are the pics





    My advice would be to cut out the McD's and Twinkies, do cardio, and you'll see some good results in 6 months.

    You don't need clen. Meth..maybe.

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    ok brahs, for the last time these are really bad pics, i've been on a cut for like 2 weeks. I look more defined now. The only part where i hold a lot of fat is on my lower abs. My upper 4 abs are showing nicely. I'm at 172 now, but gonna get to 165 or less because i'm cycling off of creatine now. And look above my diet is exemplary. alright next i will start a cycle of ec stack or oxyelite pro dont know yet.

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    You need to do some serious work on your chest,,,and your back.. Your quads are alright... but the rest needs a lot of work...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eriv View Post
    I know I don't NEED it but it would take me to my goals faster

    bodybuilding is a marathon, not a sprint

    At your age, the only thing you should be taking is food! Supplements such as protein shakes, glutamine, creatine, and other vitamins are fine as well. But as far as Clen or any other anabolics goes, your too young. Your body needs to mature!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lann1011 View Post
    You need to do some serious work on your chest,,,and your back.. Your quads are alright... but the rest needs a lot of work...
    i know my back is lagging like a bitch, but my chest is actually pretty good (srs), traps are good, quads are coming in nicely. But your right on back starting to see it better though with my new back routine. But, my chest i'd have to argue is a pretty good part of my body, i rep 205 on bb flat bench.

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    lol reppin 205, cmon mann forget the numbers, lift hardd and i think you should say FUCK CUTTING UP and start eating like a mad man and grow before you diet.

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    yeh, my cut so far is going good. Getting strisations in my shoulders, triceps and biceps are seperating (if you know what i mean). Veins in my shoulder/traps. Starting deadlifting again after lower back injury. Next week going to run the ec stack w/ bcaa, kelp, and green tea extract.

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