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    What drugs do you think change a woman's facial features the most?

    Are harsher drugs "not so bad" as long as one would use a really low dose? or for a short duration?

    Will HGH in a dose of 1 or 2 IU cause facial changes?

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    What drugs do you think change a woman's facial features the most?

    A: The ones you abuse & use too long. I think you also have to take into consideration diet and degree of leanness when you talk about a "jacked" look - i.e. on contest day - its not really fair to blame everything on AAS when someone is ultra dieted down for a couple of days.

    Are harsher drugs "not so bad" as long as one would use a really low dose? or for a short duration?
    A: "Harsher drugs" - are usually more androgenic, or estrogenic (via aromatization), or have longer esters (which means even on a low dose for a short period of time, you still have to wait for the compound to clear your system), and then you have to look at the other less apparent sides - mood impact, liver impact, blood pressure impact, cholesterol impact, etc.

    Will HGH in a dose of 1 or 2 IU cause facial changes?
    A: No.

    The deal w/ "harsher drugs" as it can be w/ any "less harsh drugs" or even OTC ibuprofen or anything else that can affect your body's chemstry - there are no guarantees. You have to see how each compound works for you. And like listed above, the unseen sides that people don't usualy think of are also involved. I think many women don't see that or aren't aware of it, and then don't get their blood work done as regularly as guys probably do.

    For women, because you are playing w/ your hormone levels, the stuff that stays in your system longer you can't really plan for what the sides may be and if you get somethign you don't like, even if you stop, tough shit - you gotta wait for the compound to clear. Also because of the much lower ratio of testosterone in women's bodies, if there's an impurity or something weird in the compound, it may have much more dramatic effects on her system than it woudl on a guy's.

    So at the end of the day you either get in the game all the way or you don't. The amount of natural test produced by the avg female, relative to even a 10 mg anavar is so small that any tiny dose of any AAS is going to have an impact. You really can't "dabble in AAS" unless you are using maybe anavar. Everything else is a commitment to dramatically altering your hormone profile & body chemistry. You need to already have a tight, productive and consistent diet & training program, and then have a clear purpose for why you want to use this or that AAS and then have reasonable expectations. Just "shooting steroids" doesnt' mean you're going to immediately "lean out & tone up" or whatever it is you're looking for.

    I don't know the context of these questions but you either know what you're getting into & be responsible for it, or stop thinking about it & focus on your diet & training for your results. There's a whole world of art & science to just diet & training, 99% of which I'm sure most people haven't explored.
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    great post jill. i think these are smart questions for someone that is wanting to venture into the harder side of bodybuilding drugs.

    i laugh though...when i hear i took ***** and had no sides. i just dont buy it. there are tolerable sides yes, but they still are what they are.

    less is more when it comes to women, IMO
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    I was looking for ratios of testosterone produced by men vs women, one number I found was men produce 6-8 mg of test per day, women, 0.5 mg. So if you consider a dose of 10 mg of anavar, that's 2 orders of magnitude more than that produced by women naturally. So you see the level of change you're making w/ even small doses relative to normal hormone profiles.

    With the longer esters, you also have to consider accumulated effects over longer periods of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tammyp View Post
    great post jill. i think these are smart questions for someone that is wanting to venture into the harder side of bodybuilding drugs.

    i laugh though...when i hear i took ***** and had no sides. i just dont buy it. there are tolerable sides yes, but they still are what they are.

    less is more when it comes to women, IMO
    me too

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