Heart Rate TOO Low?

**george.mumford** · 04-05-2010, 07:29 AM

When I am doing my cardio my heart rate only goes from 88-98 BPM. Will I still be burning bodyfat for fuel? I am doing 3hrs 20min of cardio a day. Broken up into 3 sessions

**diamonddelts** · 04-05-2010, 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by george.mumford

When I am doing my cardio my heart rate only goes from 88-98 BPM. Will I still be burning bodyfat for fuel? I am doing 3hrs 20min of cardio a day. Broken up into 3 sessions

3 and a half hours of cardio? Youre overdoing it IMO.

**jamwithtupac** · 04-05-2010, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by diamonddelts

3 and a half hours of cardio? Youre overdoing it IMO.

ye i agree, and why not just move faster get it higher, i think youre doing keto?? get it to 130

**george.mumford** · 04-05-2010, 09:12 AM

The master Dave himself is having me do this much cardio. I am just following his advice and yes its a Keto diet.

**jjjohns_10** · 04-05-2010, 10:43 AM

Hey bro! Great job at the Vancouver. I was Open LightHeavy, got a chance to see you take the novice overall before i went on. U doin the Cup?

I did keto as well. Dieted for 17 weeks; i noticed those last 4 weeks or so, it was almost impossible for me to get my HR above 100bpm. If Dave is recommending you do something, I would follow it 100% and dont stray from it. Granted, i think getting the HR up there a liiiiittle bit more wouldn't hurt, maybe just over 100bpm if you can.

**anabolic fyre** · 04-05-2010, 01:23 PM

Much respect to ANY1 that can do 3 hours+ of cardio a day haha, im only doin 50 min a day right now and it feels impossible sometimes. Last year when i got up to an hour and 20 min i wanted to kill myself, how do u stay sane??

**jamwithtupac** · 04-05-2010, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by george.mumford

The master Dave himself is having me do this much cardio. I am just following his advice and yes its a Keto diet.

well considering dave is doing your diet, then listen to him who knows your diet and not us lol!

3 hrs is loads however.

**jamwithtupac** · 04-05-2010, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by jjjohns_10

Hey bro! Great job at the Vancouver. I was Open LightHeavy, got a chance to see you take the novice overall before i went on. U doin the Cup?

I did keto as well. Dieted for 17 weeks; i noticed those last 4 weeks or so, it was almost impossible for me to get my HR above 100bpm. If Dave is recommending you do something, I would follow it 100% and dont stray from it. Granted, i think getting the HR up there a liiiiittle bit more wouldn't hurt, maybe just over 100bpm if you can.

how come u couldnt get it over 100bpm, just go on a higher incline then its easy enough to get it above 100

**The Thinker** · 04-05-2010, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by george.mumford

The master Dave himself is having me do this much cardio. I am just following his advice and yes its a Keto diet.

I'm working with Dave too and he told me the lower range is 90 bpm and not to exceed 130 bpm. I thought 90 was low but the master has spoken.

**jjjohns_10** · 04-05-2010, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by jamwithtupac

how come u couldnt get it over 100bpm, just go on a higher incline then its easy enough to get it above 100

Couldn't get it above 100bpm because whenever I would those last 4 weeks I would literally almost pass out; no joke that's how exhausted I was. I was only doing two hours a day!

**george.mumford** · 04-05-2010, 08:47 PM

Seriously I feel like crap, 3.0 mph is really fast for me at this point! What sucks is that I was drinking 3 gallons of crystal light and each pack contains 8g carbs roughly so I think I just finally hit ketosis!
Yeah I am doing the Cup, I am going to get my ass handed to me haha No offense to Dave but I followed his routine to the dot and well I did not come in the condition I wanted to. The only mess up I had was the crystal light thing which I did not know about and one week I had a real big cheat meal. I should have just followed my own diet but next time I know better.

**anabolic fyre** · 04-05-2010, 08:56 PM

lol so ur saying dave sucks as a prep coach?? i want the real opinion lol.

**george.mumford** · 04-05-2010, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by anabolic fyre

lol so ur saying dave sucks as a prep coach?? i want the real opinion lol.

haha no he is a great guy and all but I guess I wanted that super grainy look but since I am natural it might have been harder for him to get me that look in 15 weeks.
Every week he tells me I look phenomenal and perfect but I don't think I do. I am never satisfied. I still highly recommend him though, he has dropped my bodyfat while keeping my muscle I believe.

**jjjohns_10** · 04-05-2010, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by george.mumford

Seriously I feel like crap, 3.0 mph is really fast for me at this point! What sucks is that I was drinking 3 gallons of crystal light and each pack contains 8g carbs roughly so I think I just finally hit ketosis!
Yeah I am doing the Cup, I am going to get my ass handed to me haha No offense to Dave but I followed his routine to the dot and well I did not come in the condition I wanted to. The only mess up I had was the crystal light thing which I did not know about and one week I had a real big cheat meal. I should have just followed my own diet but next time I know better.

Yea dude, i feel ya. Walking at 3.0 was utterly exhausting near the end there for me too. I could barely stand, let alone do hours of cardio a day. For a natural guy, your condition at the Vancouver was spot on. Not too many guys can get that grainy look at our age; especially without drugs. You have excellent shape and size George, I think you'll do better than you think. I'll be there rootin you on bro

**george.mumford** · 04-05-2010, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by jjjohns_10

Yea dude, i feel ya. Walking at 3.0 was utterly exhausting near the end there for me too. I could barely stand, let alone do hours of cardio a day. For a natural guy, your condition at the Vancouver was spot on. Not too many guys can get that grainy look at our age; especially without drugs. You have excellent shape and size George, I think you'll do better than you think. I'll be there rootin you on bro

Thanks John hey if you see me around say whats up!

**jjjohns_10** · 04-05-2010, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by george.mumford

Thanks John hey if you see me around say whats up!

For sure bro. My name's Jack Johns btw, i gotta change my screen name. Take care man, kick ass!

**GirlyMuscle** · 04-05-2010, 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by george.mumford

Seriously I feel like crap, 3.0 mph is really fast for me at this point! What sucks is that I was drinking 3 gallons of crystal light and each pack contains 8g carbs roughly so I think I just finally hit ketosis!
Yeah I am doing the Cup, I am going to get my ass handed to me haha No offense to Dave but I followed his routine to the dot and well I did not come in the condition I wanted to. The only mess up I had was the crystal light thing which I did not know about and one week I had a real big cheat meal. I should have just followed my own diet but next time I know better.

Each gallon of Crystal Lite is 8 carbs. So 3 gallons a day is 24 carbs over the diet. That's enough to screw up ketosis for some people. That's NOT considered following Dave's diet "to the dot."

**george.mumford** · 04-06-2010, 12:52 AM

Originally Posted by GirlyMuscle

Each gallon of Crystal Lite is 8 carbs. So 3 gallons a day is 24 carbs over the diet. That's enough to screw up ketosis for some people. That's NOT considered following Dave's diet "to the dot."

Well I told him about me drinking 3 gallons of crystal light a day and he said it was okay. Its just now I have been trying to nick pick everything in my diet. His diet he made for me which is just a little less than a 200lb persons....if you calculate everything has roughly 50g carbs in it if you count the fiber which some people don't.

**jamwithtupac** · 04-06-2010, 06:35 AM

well a coach doesnt know your body like yourself so doesnty always mean he will get you into best condition, plus i prefer the carb approach when dieting as daves diet sucked for me after a few weeks.............

wow suprised you guys are this tired in the last few weeks, nearly passing out from 100bpm cardio.....wtf?? lol

**AVBG** · 04-06-2010, 07:18 AM

Keep your head in the game George, it's ALL TOO EASY to start doubting yourself.. Take some time away from the BOARDS and re-group.. It's not too late to pull it all together, it's amazing what GOOD mental attitude can do to improve your physique.

**george.mumford** · 04-06-2010, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by AVBG

Keep your head in the game George, it's ALL TOO EASY to start doubting yourself.. Take some time away from the BOARDS and re-group.. It's not too late to pull it all together, it's amazing what GOOD mental attitude can do to improve your physique.

Thanks, thats a great idea. I will let you all know how I do.

**jamwithtupac** · 04-06-2010, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by george.mumford

Thanks, thats a great idea. I will let you all know how I do.

ye i agree, the boards can mess with your mind, do what u have to do, too many opinions at this stage messes with the mind

**Steve56** · 04-06-2010, 10:05 AM

well a couple of things...the reason your HR isnt getting over 90 something is because your probably in great cardio vascular shape!! i mean you are doing over 3 hours a day lol....did you have a lot of fat to lose when you started your diet?? and yea stay away from crystal lite...1-2 glasses a day at the most

**george.mumford** · 04-06-2010, 04:27 PM

When I started my diet 15 weeks ago I was about 177lbs I am about 165lbs now.
I am in pretty good cardiovascular shape since I use to run and hike a lot

**Steve56** · 04-06-2010, 05:26 PM

well you look preaty damn good in your profile pic...i'm sure you will be fine bro!!

**MuscleWOP** · 04-07-2010, 12:18 AM

dave is doing my diet and i am 15 weeks out, i will not do 3 hrs nor do i have 3 hrs of time to do cardio that is rediculous

**george.mumford** · 04-07-2010, 09:12 AM

Originally Posted by MuscleWOP

dave is doing my diet and i am 15 weeks out, i will not do 3 hrs nor do i have 3 hrs of time to do cardio that is rediculous

You may have too at the very end. "DO NOT HAVE TIME" me either....I make time....I only sleep 3 hours a night haha

FML!!!

**MuscleWOP** · 04-07-2010, 11:36 AM

you are lean as shit. are you natty or what? i'm not and this misconception of 3-4% bf is redic as pros even have trouble getting to that %. i want 6%, im not going to kill myself on 3 hrs though. goodluck man