Saw this on Wendlers Log

[bad bad leroy brown]

This is from Paul Carter's blog -

What constitutes strong?

This is something that is debated back and forth all the time by lifters. A long time ago I had a "star system" where I set up lifts for 5 rep maxes and what level it was placed on. Like "weak, average, strong, elite" that kind of thing. It stirred up quite a bit of discussion on the small board I posted on at the time. I thought it was good food for thought.

I go back and forth with this sort of thing all the time with Jim Wendler of elitefts and so I figured what the heck, I'd throw some numbers up that we have been chatting about that would constitute really diesel elite-level lifting for reps.

Bench Press - 315x20

I took notice of this after Eric Lilliebridge sent me his training log. Most all of the 500+ bench pressers I know can hit around 315 for 20-22 reps or so. And even if you couldn't bench 500, if you could do 315x20 you'd be damn big and strong. No getting around that.

Dips - 200x10

Jim says this is ridiculous. I left it at 200x10 for that very reason. I mean we're talking elite level right?

Chins - 100x10

Some skinny guys that are naturally built for chinning might be able to hit this. But we're talking dead-stop chins all the way up. Not that forehead to the bar shit. This is diesel chinning/back strength, especially for guys over 200 pounds.

Squats and Deadlifts - 500x20

Yeah sounds ridiculous doesn't it? That's the point. Using a calculator this would come out to an 800 squat or dead. Mind you, the point here isn't that if you worked up to this you would be hitting an 800 squat or dead, but you'd damn sure have increased your 1 rep max and you'd be a walking Hulk to boot. Second, all of that mass would have increased your 1 rep max ceiling. Meaning you probably would be able to translate those reps into an 800 squat or dead after specializing in some singles for a while. Good stuff all around.





Standing Strict Press - 315x1

No push press crap. Lots of guy can do push press numbers that look good but then fall flat on their face come strict press time. This is the one lift where we never talked about reps but just about putting 3 wheels overhead. I was probably good for this at one time (275x3 strict) but I do my standing press from a clean. I couldn't hang clean 315 so I never got a shot. After August I am going to take a real run at this over the next 12 months.

Barbell Curls - 185 x 10

Again, strict. I don't think we discussed this one too much but it's there (I think).

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I read this and thought if anyone can acheive any of those, they are a certified beast. I know there is a video of Justin Harris hitting 500 for around 20, so he counts. Ryan Kennely can hit 315 for about 22. Anyone else know of any feats that beat or come close?

[Sandpig]

Reading that makes me feel pathetic and weak.

[smj091977]

I am more of a NFL combine Type. I remember the first time I hit 225 for 20. I felt like I had just hit a world record. I have never made it over 315 for 10. Good Article BBLB.

[rinse]

I believe Kennelly has done 315 for 40 reps. He does 405 for 20 close to full reps in his dvd.

[G-Roy]

If I can ever do most of those lifts with that weight for one good rep I will be happy.

[bad bad leroy brown]

If I can get this pain and stiffness out of my knee, I would like to make a run at that number for the squat and deadlift(albeit with a lighter poundage)