'Results not typical' claims now illegal

[TheHeath]

lol

I'm almost certain that Mike Pulcinella stated this was filmed tongue in cheek in a thread on MD. Perhaps he'll peek in here and verify.

The way it was put together seemed obviously satirical to me. I really hope no one takes this as a REAL claim. If the company wanted this to be a real claim, I hope it would've been compiled better.

[lartinos]

That kind of marketing just feeds into the lazy attitude of people. Everyone wants a quick fix and not a long term plan.

[TheSpirit]

But I KNOW people that fall for this shit all the time. The first thing they ask me is WHAT SUPPS DO I TAKE. People don't even understand that most pros have been training for at least 15 years and also with exceptionally responsive genetics and "supplementation". Yet people assume that if I take "x" product it will turn them into a beast. Look at the top pro in the olympia. Only Phil Heath has been training less than 10 years for bodybuilding. The rest of these top guys its been damn near 20+years slinging Iron.

Jay 20+
Branch 20+
Kai 20+
Dex 20+
Toney Freeman 20+
Victor 18+
Ronny Rockel 20+




When people see these people slinging supps they forgot about this.

[juiceinator3000]

But I KNOW people that fall for this shit all the time. The first thing they ask me is WHAT SUPPS DO I TAKE. People don't even understand that most pros have been training for at least 15 years and also with exceptionally responsive genetics and "supplementation". Yet people assume that if I take "x" product it will turn them into a beast. Look at the top pro in the olympia. Only Phil Heath has been training less than 10 years for bodybuilding. The rest of these top guys its been damn near 20+years slinging Iron.

Jay 20+
Branch 20+
Kai 20+
Dex 20+
Toney Freeman 20+
Victor 18+
Ronny Rockel 20+




When people see these people slinging supps they forgot about this.

Well, most information that a beginning exerciser is going to get is going to be completely biased, and geared towards selling supplements. Most people who just start lifting aren't getting their information from the web, and especially not BB forums. Typically someone picks up a magazine and says oooh i wanna look like that. Most magazines don't tell you how long top pros have been training for, or how hard they train, or even typically the amount of weight they are using. Magazines get paid by supplement companies for ad space, and a naive beginner, as typically every single one is, sees these supplement ads and thinks that that's how it works. I don't think it's because anyone forgot that the top pros have been training, not just lifting weights, but training, for years, i think it's that they don't fucking know. The magazines go out of their way to make it look easy. Do this routine, take this, gain 20 pounds of muscle in 12 weeks. It's hard to say it's the new exerciser who is at fault, when all they are fed is propaganda. Maybe next time someone asks you for some info, you can direct them to something more helpful than flex or musclemag and actually help them out

[Carson]

heh Truth.

HARDKORR!!!!



They may have shelves of supplements, but you're telling me they believe it's going to turn them into Ronnie Coleman at his peak?



lol

I'm almost certain that Mike Pulcinella stated this was filmed tongue in cheek in a thread on MD. Perhaps he'll peek in here and verify.

Curt, when I began bodybuilding at 18 I believed in the factious claims of the supplement companies. Now,if you don't believe that people take supplements to emulate their bodybuilding idols, you're wrong. Tell me then why did Muscle Tech come out with the " Jay Cutler Stack"? Tell me why these companies hire these "athletes" to represent their product line if people do not wish to look like the models who are representing the company?


I think you might understand a little better now.

[Mobster]

The main reason such laws have been passed has been the statements, inferring or otherwise, such ideas for too many years. The industry only has itself to blame. I own a supps company and the EU (affecting us here in the UK) has been looking to pass regs like these for years. It's now come to pass.

From claims that use of vitamins will cure cancer to add length to your penis - marketing was taking the fucking piss. Now we're gonna have problems.

[lartinos]

People also don't understand the gentic aspect of BB. They think it is all steroids and supplements with a little bit of training

[Sandpig]

Fuckin A! Bout time they do something about this shit.

Only took em what, twenty, thirty years since Cybergenics started this crap.

[Carson]

People also don't understand the gentic aspect of BB. They think it is all steroids and supplements with a little bit of training

Whose fault is that? With all the supplement companies saying, " take this because Jay Cutler used it to win the Olympia". Who do you really think is to blame?

[juiceinator3000]

Whose fault is that? With all the supplement companies saying, " take this because Jay Cutler used it to win the Olympia". Who do you really think is to blame?

Exactly what i was trying to say. I think it's even worse that all the douchebags out there forget that they did the same thing when they first started and don't bother to offer their knowledge, or better yet, where they attained their knowledge about training/diet/supplementation

[Synth]

"In addition, if you disclose the results that consumers can generally expect to achieve, you must have clinical data to substantiate your claim."

-I like that part!

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About newbs believing if they will look like the people that advertise for X product?
I think they do, By/buy into the whole scam, first, they Want 'it' badly and second they have no knowledge.

So, in lew of having no info and being desperate the typical human brain will latch onto any info that promises what they want.
Or the most advertised, repeated, shiniest, etc.

What tramp stamp to you want to see?
a cute curly Celtic thing. Or a red and black 'stamp with lighting bolts That say's in big bold Letters "Insert Peniz Here! YO!"
With an arrow in the shape of a dagger point down.
..Uh-HUH, I thought So!

(P.S. if you've seen that tattoo your fuking my G/F and she has chlamydia)

[juiceinator3000]

"in addition, if you disclose the results that consumers can generally expect to achieve, you must have clinical data to substantiate your claim."

-i like that part!

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about newbs believing if they will look like the people that advertise for x product?
I think they do, by/buy into the whole scam, first, they want 'it' badly and second they have no knowledge.

So, in lew of having no info and being desperate the typical human brain will latch onto any info that promises what they want.
Or the most advertised, repeated, shiniest, etc.

What tramp stamp to you want to see?
A cute curly celtic thing. or a red and black 'stamp with lighting bolts that say's in big bold letters "insert peniz here! Yo!"
with an arrow in the shape of a dagger point down.
..uh-huh, i thought so!

lmfao

[tiramisu]

I'm really curious as to how this will impact supplement marketing. Do they remove claims altogether and just imply the results or do they actually try going with the truth.

My guess is that the truth is still far away.

[Sledge]

Truth in advertising laws are a good thing but their is always ways around it and loop holes. The entire supplement industry is based around unsubstantiated hype and misdirection rivaled only by womens beauty products.. Hell even the names of the products makes me laugh. These requlations won't change much, I'm sure the legal eagles and advertising gurus will be sitting back laughing.

[Sandpig]

I'm really curious as to how this will impact supplement marketing. .

Maybe we won't have to look at 6 page MT ads anymore that take up half a freakin magazine.