The classic unsettled matchup. BB v. MMA

[coaltrain]

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Who would win in a street fight?

Stats- (I chose the following stats from what I believe accurately represents the majority of the populations that consider themselves a BB or MMA. i.e. average height, weight, age)
5'10" 260lb 12% 30yrs old. decent street fighting exp. Knows how to throw a punch and gets the fight rather than flight response during an altercation.
(I preface the above because I think most BBers get the flight response and because having large muscles in an of itself discourages others from starting something)

6' 175lb 10% 24yrs old. Training MMA for 3 years, several amateur fights, loud mouth, shit talker, respectably tough, but seems to think he's the next GSP.

Keep in mind street fights usually end within 1 min. All strikes and slams are legal and no ref to stop the fight. Goes until someone is physically incapable of continuing. Basic street fighting stuff.

So, in the parking lot of your local pub, who takes it?

[NPCKnight]

Id say the only chance an untrained (in fighting) bodybuilder would have is on sheer force or power.

[Ninja Loco]

Too many factors, bro.

So GSPwannabe has trained for 3 years..... How well did he learn what he studied?

Decent Streetfighter....whats his wind? even a good street fighter doesnt always know when he's being set up for something.



So....like everything else: It comes down to who is better at what he does. Thats my take. And experience.

[Jason Newman]

mma for sure, if they are fast enough to move around the big guy, but this is using current day bbers, i think some of the smaller more mobile guys liek FRANCO would tear up a MMA guy from today, but its two different strengths.... one fast and effecient VS a big brute who may be able to land a one punch knockout or just overtake the mma guy, now a BBer who knows MMA or something is an interresting idea

[Swede]

"Unsettled matchup"?

Takes the best bodybuilder vs the best MMA fighter and there you have it..

For Fuck sake.

[coaltrain]

Too many factors, bro.

So GSPwannabe has trained for 3 years..... How well did he learn what he studied?

Decent Streetfighter....whats his wind? even a good street fighter doesnt always know when he's being set up for something.



So....like everything else: It comes down to who is better at what he does. Thats my take. And experience.

I know there are many factors but just average out all the MMA guys that you know or have met, and same with BBer's. Take the mean of all those people and have them fight.

A street fight goes 0-60 in under a second, no feeling out process. I would say the larger man could wrestle the other to the ground, lay on top, land strikes (even to the back of the head) until the smaller man is done. This is what I have seen as well as my experience.

Having trained off and on since 2000 I would have an advantage over a completely untrained BBer but I was also worked over once pretty bad at a concert, by some dude that weighed no more that 180. Im just thinking the average of both populations.

[coaltrain]

"Unsettled matchup"?

Takes the best bodybuilder vs the best MMA fighter and there you have it..

For Fuck sake.

I'm not talking UFC vs. IFBB Swedey Pie. Just your average hometown dudes. Of course the UFC guys would win, they fight for a fucking living.

[Deadlifter91]

depends if its in an enclosed area like in a bar or something i think the bodybuilder would have a lot better chance than he would if it was out side or something

[coaltrain]

depends if its in an enclosed area like in a bar or something i think the bodybuilder would have a lot better chance than he would if it was out side or something

Ah, great point. Easier to pin someone down.

[Ninja Loco]

I know there are many factors but just average out all the MMA guys that you know or have met, and same with BBer's. Take the mean of all those people and have them fight.

A street fight goes 0-60 in under a second, no feeling out process. I would say the larger man could wrestle the other to the ground, lay on top, land strikes (even to the back of the head) until the smaller man is done. This is what I have seen as well as my experience.

Having trained off and on since 2000 I would have an advantage over a completely untrained BBer but I was also worked over once pretty bad at a concert, by some dude that weighed no more that 180. Im just thinking the average of both populations.

True, true....true. But the fact remains that at the concert, for some odd reason or another, the other guy was better at what he was doing. Even though you are trained. Feel me?

[coaltrain]

True, true....true. But the fact remains that at the concert, for some odd reason or another, the other guy was better at what he was doing. Even though you are trained. Feel me?

Oh he was light years ahead of me. I have a nice little scar to prove it. LOL

[Ninja Loco]

Oh he was light years ahead of me. I have a nice little scar to prove it. LOL

Well dig this man....I have a friend who is NOT a trained fighter, and only a decent streetfighter. What makes him formidable is that yeah, he's only like 2 inches taller, but he outweighs me by 100 pounds and has absolutely no fear. Of anything. He absolutely, positively will not give up. If he and I were to..... man I think I could put him in an arm bar and break the fucker, then he would come back and beat my ass with the good arm.

[Swede]

I'm not talking UFC vs. IFBB Swedey Pie. Just your average hometown dudes. Of course the UFC guys would win, they fight for a fucking living.

yeah I know, I posted that before I read your Entire post lol. thought I edited it haha.

[G-Roy]

I think it comes down to who reacts faster in your typical bar brawl/street fight. This isnt a cage where pure skill and game plan comes into play. Most bar fights Ive been in/been witness too comes down to some shit talking, a shove, and a punch or two then peoples and bouncers breaking it up.

As for a street fight without as much intervention from people, I would have to go with the MMA guy assuming he works his stand up really well and doesnt just roll around all day trying to break arms and do rear nakeds.

I know plenty of bbers and powelifters that like to work the bag, spar, and do technique drills for GPP purposes and cardio. Assuming the bber has decent knowledge and a little bit of real world knowledge, I dont see why either would have a distinct advantage. I'm saying whoever is bold enough to throw the 1st punch and land it takes it.

[coaltrain]

I think it comes down to who reacts faster in your typical bar brawl/street fight. This isnt a cage where pure skill and game plan comes into play. Most bar fights Ive been in/been witness too comes down to some shit talking, a shove, and a punch or two then peoples and bouncers breaking it up.

As for a street fight without as much intervention from people, I would have to go with the MMA guy assuming he works his stand up really well and doesnt just roll around all day trying to break arms and do rear nakeds.

I know plenty of bbers and powelifters that like to work the bag, spar, and do technique drills for GPP purposes and cardio. Assuming the bber has decent knowledge and a little bit of real world knowledge, I dont see why either would have a distinct advantage. I'm saying whoever is bold enough to throw the 1st punch and land it takes it.

That is usually the case. Whoever lands the first clean shot wins. Except when sparring, usually around the two year mark, your body becomes accustomed to jarring blows. Don't get me wrong an overhand right from Chuck Liddell in his hayday would put anyone out but I think the MMA guy might have an advantage here. Learning how to take punches is very important and can only be taught by repeatedly learning how to absorb jarring blows.