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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Newman View Post
    huh??? first off yes i am altering my hormones quite rastically really,
    2nd, why would i take milk thistle AND liv52???? umm next please,

    anyone have experience with toremefine here?>
    You aren't altering your hormones much at all. If you think you are then perhaps a little more research is in order. Halodrol is one of the weakest OTC products.

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    ust because its weak doesnt mean it doesnt alter hormones! dude ive seen guys bloodwork drop test way down low

    ive decided to go middle of the road, i have a hell of a pct lined up but its all OTC,

    ill be using a plant based SERM
    resveratol, a testofen divanil product, a full spectrum vitamin e supplement for cholesterol, and fadogia agrestis product as well....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Newman View Post
    ust because its weak doesnt mean it doesnt alter hormones! dude ive seen guys bloodwork drop test way down low

    ive decided to go middle of the road, i have a hell of a pct lined up but its all OTC,

    ill be using a plant based SERM
    resveratol, a testofen divanil product, a full spectrum vitamin e supplement for cholesterol, and fadogia agrestis product as well....
    i like this plan and think it will be fine.

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    why all the disrespect in this thread. its uncalled for. we can make our arguments respectfully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe d View Post
    why all the disrespect in this thread. its uncalled for. we can make our arguments respectfully.
    Is there a specific post you are referencing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Newman View Post
    huh??? first off yes i am altering my hormones quite rastically really,
    2nd, why would i take milk thistle AND liv52???? umm next please,

    anyone have experience with toremefine here?>

    Easy bro, no need to get loud. I must have been typing way too fast this morning; what i was trying to say is that your taking a pretty mild prohormone type product. I'll always side with being overly causious when it comes to PCT, but this is a case where you probably don't NEED a hardcore PCT; but if you want to go that root, its def not a BAD idea.

    I suggested Milk Thistle/Liv52 simply because its a good idea after a cycle bro, plain and simple.

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    well i have liver juice on hand for that one, and ill be using hcgenerate, sustain alpha, and testopro for PCT i think that oughtta cover it all plant based serm great natty test boost,

    sory bros super stressed school just dropped one of the classes i needed to graduate!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Newman View Post
    well i have liver juice on hand for that one, and ill be using hcgenerate, sustain alpha, and testopro for PCT i think that oughtta cover it all plant based serm great natty test boost,

    sory bros super stressed school just dropped one of the classes i needed to graduate!!!
    All good man. Being a college graduate myself I know what a PAIN IN THE ASS filling course requirements can be! Keep up the good work

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Newman View Post
    huh??? first off yes i am altering my hormones quite rastically really,
    2nd, why would i take milk thistle AND liv52???? umm next please,

    anyone have experience with toremefine here?>


    I only use Toremefine for PCT and it works Great bro!

    Heres my protocol: 120 first 3 days 90 rest of week/90/60/20

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    Sustain Alpha and HCGenerate works like a charm for me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Newman View Post
    well i have liver juice on hand for that one, and ill be using hcgenerate, sustain alpha, and testopro for PCT i think that oughtta cover it all plant based serm great natty test boost,

    sory bros super stressed school just dropped one of the classes i needed to graduate!!!
    for halo cycle this will more than suffice!

    I would run staggered like this

    SA Weeks 1-4, 5 on 2 off
    HCGenerate Weeks 1-4, 5 caps split into 2 am, 1 mid day, 2 pm
    TestoPro Weeks 2-6, 2 am and 2 pm

    Enjoy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Newman View Post
    ust because its weak doesnt mean it doesnt alter hormones! dude ive seen guys bloodwork drop test way down low

    ive decided to go middle of the road, i have a hell of a pct lined up but its all OTC,

    ill be using a plant based SERM
    resveratol, a testofen divanil product, a full spectrum vitamin e supplement for cholesterol, and fadogia agrestis product as well....
    True and I know that as little as 50 mgs of Test will shut one down so what you are taking Jason, I am sure it will as well.

    The line of supps are the best Ive seen on the market so I think your plan looks good. I believe Need2 carries these.......

    Keep us updated.....

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    my pct is 1000mg's of test cyp with hcg works fine, never lost any gains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ymir View Post
    my pct is 1000mg's of test cyp with hcg works fine, never lost any gains.
    are you saying your running 1g of test year round?

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    u could try a really low dose of nolv like 10 mgs everyday

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