First Anavar cycle w/Thyroxine Sodium & OTC supps

[s2h]

The sides from winstrol will be more pronounced than anything you experience on var so just be prepared. Whatever you do experience will clear when the compounds clear (ref:detection time for anavar & winstrol).

Yes you can drink the winny - if its "winstrol" then it will be the same water-based injectible anywhere on the planet (unless its faked - I don't think people bother faking winstrol because its pretty cheap & readily available). You can do it at 25 mg E3D. It doesn't matter "when" you use it relative to anavar in terms of time of day - mostly just more important to tkae it consistently.

I know everyone is "worried about" or "scared of" the sides with this or that AAS that more than anavar - but this is where you have to take responsibility for your decisions. The only way you'll know how you respond is if you do your own personal experiment. The sides are widely discussed all over the internet, so the broad range of what you see discussed can happen to you - expect any of them, but the degree to which you experience them will be dependent upon the compound, your dosing and your own body chemistry. Be aware that "really tiny doses" aren't going to make a difference in sides- you're introducing a dramatic change in your hormone profile even w/ small amounts. You're either using or not - "just a little doesn't" still means using.

Easily expected sides include:
- yeast infection (same as any AAS - recommend include acidophilus in your supplements to help prevent it)
- voice crack / change / scratchy throat -- can't do anything about this
- hairloss - this is similar to male pattern baldness - DHT - Nizoral shampoo helps
- acne - can also use Nizoral shampoo as a body wash
- facial hair growth - might be random darker hairs, probably not a big issue unless you cycle more / longer.
- some people experience low-grade fever / cold from winstrol (happens also w/ other AAS) - this can be the body's reaction to this compound - sort of like its trying to deal w/ the foreign stuff in it.

you left out she's gonna be horny........

[tankygirl]

Yay! Horny!!!... or should I say.. more horny!!! see there is always an upside even to sides...

[s2h]

Yay! Horny!!!... or should I say.. more horny!!! see there is always an upside even to sides...

i love women on AAS....

[sassy69]

you left out she's gonna be horny........

Most people don't consider that a "side", as in a bad thing.

[s2h]

Most people don't consider that a "side", as in a bad thing.

1 of the 2 best ass sides for women that is good.......

[LookImDancinCrazy!]

Age: 50
Weight 150lbs
BF% 17.3
Training 20 years
Competing 2 years

Hi All, I am about to start my first cycle of Anavar. I will be starting with 2.5mg twice daily for 10 days then if no reactions I will go to 5mg twice daily for remainder of cycle (8 weeks at this stage)

My next competition is 22 weeks away and I have just started my pre-contest dieting, I like to take it slow and steady and allow for any problems that may need more time to fix..

Presently taking L-Glutamine, Creatine, Multi Vitamin, OTC Test Booster, Omega 3's, BCAA's, Protein Powder, usually drinking 3-4 litres of water.

I also take 200mcg of Thyroxine Sodium once a day as I had my thyroid totally removed 27 years ago... which means I can get the Thyroxine without any problems so changing the dose if required is also not a problem

Diet will be 2 days no carb one day higher carb, done by professional competition trainer and nutritionist who does not have a lot of knowledge with anavar.

My question is... sorry it too so long to get to it... is there any OTC supps I should be taking and how much, I saw on another thread Milk Thistle and Acidophilus were recommended... anything else?????

Thanx for your help and yes I know 50 does seem old but I don't think it is and when you get there neither will you....

I have a few ideas to offer.

not sure any herbal (or otherwise) OTC product to increase endogenous T production would be worthwhile while also running an oxogenous anabolic. I'd drop the OTC T booster until the day you d/c your Ox cycle.

Also, there is some speculation that silymarin can antagonize the androgen receptor. That means the milk thistle product could possibly decrease the effectiveness of the AAS you're running.

Lastly, why not just get a CBC every 4 weeks to monitor your AST/ALT/Alk phosphatase levels? If they aint broke, why run the milk thistle to fix 'em. Even 10mg daily for an otherwise healthy liver for 8 weeks isn't exactly reckless. Just don't take acet, drink, and know the potential hepatotoxity of any other meds you may be taking. (ex unison which can be a bit toxic at liver doses)

[tankygirl]

Well so much for my plans...
The Anavar has never appeared, it seems to be rarer than hens teeth out of the States!!
So I will now be doing a straight Winnie cycle... fingers crossed the snake bite doesn't get me LOL
Any suggestions about things I may need to change now that it will only be Winnie??

[Sledge]

Hey TankyGirl. So your not in the USA and judging by your profile pic i can guess what country your in. You are correct about the avaliability, rearer than hens teeth. I guess you'll be changing feds for your next comp too, what show are you doing?

And most importantly tell us about your ride.

[sassy69]

Well so much for my plans...
The Anavar has never appeared, it seems to be rarer than hens teeth out of the States!!
So I will now be doing a straight Winnie cycle... fingers crossed the snake bite doesn't get me LOL
Any suggestions about things I may need to change now that it will only be Winnie??

If you're talking tabs, you can follow pretty much the same schedule as the anavar - winstrol & var have comparable half-lives.

The only thing I'd add is just more caveats around it.
- if you develop like a low-grade fever or feel a cold within 10-14 days of starting, probably due to your body dealing w/ the compound. If you can just work thru it - you might need more sleep, etc. as you would if you were feeling sick. It will pass tho.
- make sure you've got your liver support
- acne can be handled w/ Nizoral shampoo as a body wash. Vitamin B5/Pantothenic acid can help w/ hormonal acne.
- Nizoral shampoo if you experience any hairloss (you'd notice more hair coming out in your brush than normal)
- if any voice change/cracky throat/voice (possible, not likely), can't do much about it but it clears after the compound clears your system (ref: winstrol detection time or sooner)

That's about it. I don't know what brand you have or the true dosing of it, but go w/ that and you can always adjust down if the sides are too annoying.

[deestar]

My girlfriend started a winstrol cycle last week and is noticing creaky, painful joints, which I know is an expected side (have never run it myself). Do OTC joint supplements like glucosamine/chondroitin help much with this in your experience?

D

[sassy69]

My girlfriend started a winstrol cycle last week and is noticing creaky, painful joints, which I know is an expected side (have never run it myself). Do OTC joint supplements like glucosamine/chondroitin help much with this in your experience?

D

Not dramatically because the winstrol is just drying out the joints. I'd be sure to keep your EFAs sufficient. But otherwise, this is why most guys stack winstrol w/ deca to provide some water to ease the winstrol joint drying.

[Sledge]

I have a friend 47 years old (not on this site) who loves Anavar says she'd "run it 365 days year" if she could, mainly because of the way it makes her feel. Hates winstrol and gets some bad negative sides from it. I guess it just shows everyone is different.

[tankygirl]

Hey TankyGirl. So your not in the USA and judging by your profile pic i can guess what country your in. You are correct about the avaliability, rearer than hens teeth. I guess you'll be changing feds for your next comp too, what show are you doing?

And most importantly tell us about your ride.

LOL Yes Sledge definitely changing feds, can't see the point in heading this way then using it to win over naturals... no glory in that!

Next comp is at the end of the year...

oh and and a photo of the Broom is attached...

[tankygirl]

If you're talking tabs, you can follow pretty much the same schedule as the anavar - winstrol & var have comparable half-lives.

The only thing I'd add is just more caveats around it.
- if you develop like a low-grade fever or feel a cold within 10-14 days of starting, probably due to your body dealing w/ the compound. If you can just work thru it - you might need more sleep, etc. as you would if you were feeling sick. It will pass tho.
- make sure you've got your liver support
- acne can be handled w/ Nizoral shampoo as a body wash. Vitamin B5/Pantothenic acid can help w/ hormonal acne.
- Nizoral shampoo if you experience any hairloss (you'd notice more hair coming out in your brush than normal)
- if any voice change/cracky throat/voice (possible, not likely), can't do much about it but it clears after the compound clears your system (ref: winstrol detection time or sooner)

That's about it. I don't know what brand you have or the true dosing of it, but go w/ that and you can always adjust down if the sides are too annoying.

Once again thanx for al the info!!! It is injectable not tabs... will post any sides, effects etc..

[sassy69]

Once again thanx for al the info!!! It is injectable not tabs... will post any sides, effects etc..

I think we said this - you can drink it if you don't want to pin.