First Anavar cycle w/Thyroxine Sodium & OTC supps

**tankygirl** · 06-03-2010, 05:31 AM

Originally Posted by sassy69

I think we said this - you can drink it if you don't want to pin.

Yes thanx Sassy we did discuss drinking it but I have chosen to go with the pins to ensure I get full effect from it, and it is what my trainer is used to so I will let you know Saturday if I get a snake bite LOL

I also have to say what a great forum this is! Its such a relief to be able to discuss this and get positive information.

**Sledge** · 06-04-2010, 02:28 AM

Originally Posted by tankygirl

LOL Yes Sledge definitely changing feds, can't see the point in heading this way then using it to win over naturals... no glory in that!

Next comp is at the end of the year...

oh and and a photo of the Broom is attached...

Not often I see a broom with whitewalls. Nice sporty.

**tankygirl** · 06-07-2010, 06:10 AM

Well I had the first dose of Winny injected... no snake bite, in fact didn't even know the shot was done till I was told it was finished

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**sassy69** · 06-07-2010, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by tankygirl

Well I had the first dose of Winny injected... no snake bite, in fact didn't even know the shot was done till I was told it was finished

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You'll know more in 10-14 days.

**tankygirl** · 06-08-2010, 04:59 AM

Originally Posted by sassy69

You'll know more in 10-14 days.

Can't wait!!

Today it does feel like have been hit on the shoulder with an iron bar, but still not a "nasty" pain...

**Suzanne** · 06-08-2010, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by tankygirl

Well I had the first dose of Winny injected... no snake bite, in fact didn't even know the shot was done till I was told it was finished

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the "snake bite" sassy is referring to doesn't have anything to do with the actual injection

**musclemilf** · 06-08-2010, 08:52 AM

a winny snakebite = undesirable sides

**tankygirl** · 06-19-2010, 05:54 AM

Just an update... I have now had one oral dose and 5 x 21mg injections.(E3D) Not having any problems at all with the shots, body fat is dropping but then I am on a pre-contest diet, but the fat loss does appear better than what is normal pre-contest for me...
I have MAJOR strength increases in almost all weights at the gym. Of course its too early to see any body shape results although I think the pre-contest changes are coming in quicker....
My appetite has been normal until this morning when my hunger went through the roof... solved that by adding a small amount of carbs to a couple of meals on what woud normally be a low carb day...
Very happy with the winny so far

**sassy69** · 06-19-2010, 02:40 PM

I think you'll see the most dramatic part of a cycle is its support of all the beating you're doing on your body.

**Fit_Jess** · 06-22-2010, 10:23 AM

any good recommendations for what and if i should take an otc test booster....im about to take my first cycle of var this week? thanks for any recommendations!

**sassy69** · 06-22-2010, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by Fit_Jess

any good recommendations for what and if i should take an otc test booster....im about to take my first cycle of var this week? thanks for any recommendations!

Var is better and less toxic on your liver than any OTC test boosters. I don't think you need anything in addition to var.

**tankygirl** · 06-28-2010, 05:52 AM

Ok... so I have now been on winny 25mg E3D (Sorry not 21 as mentioned before) whih is roughly 8mg ED for 24 days.
I have had zero sides, great strength gains and fat loss. I was gaining 200gms of muscle a week (measured by calipers as fat loss/muscle gain) but last week lost 300gms of muscle.
Since then I have increased my carb intake to counteract the muscle burning with the precomp diet.
Doing the 25mg E3D placed me smack in the middle of the min and max recommended dose based on 5-10mg a day.
Because I am fighting the precomp diet all I am achieving is keeping what muscle I already had, I would be interested in your thoughts on increasing the dose to 50mg E3D which is equivalent to 16mg ED while the recommended dose is 5-10mg ED.

I have been told that this dose should give me growth without a great increase in the risk of sides, although I realise that sides can't be predicted...

I was hoping to stack with Anavar but this has still not turned up.. so I am now looking at increasing the winny instead..

**sassy69** · 06-28-2010, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by tankygirl

Ok... so I have now been on winny 25mg E3D (Sorry not 21 as mentioned before) whih is roughly 8mg ED for 24 days.
I have had zero sides, great strength gains and fat loss. I was gaining 200gms of muscle a week (measured by calipers as fat loss/muscle gain) but last week lost 300gms of muscle.
Since then I have increased my carb intake to counteract the muscle burning with the precomp diet.
Doing the 25mg E3D placed me smack in the middle of the min and max recommended dose based on 5-10mg a day.
Because I am fighting the precomp diet all I am achieving is keeping what muscle I already had, I would be interested in your thoughts on increasing the dose to 50mg E3D which is equivalent to 16mg ED while the recommended dose is 5-10mg ED.

I have been told that this dose should give me growth without a great increase in the risk of sides, although I realise that sides can't be predicted...

I was hoping to stack with Anavar but this has still not turned up.. so I am now looking at increasing the winny instead..

What is your protein intake? Your diet should be your first line of muscle preservation during a competition cut.

**tankygirl** · 06-28-2010, 05:31 PM

My diet has been adjusted and is currently:
MEALS:
Meal 1: ½ cup oats (measured dry)
250ml egg whites, mushrooms, capsicum, onion
3 x fish Oil caplets, multivitamins
Meal 2: 200g Kangaroo Steak, 150g sweet potato 2 c. green veggies season with bragg’s amino’s
Meal 3: 200g chicken, 150g sweet potato OR brown rice 2 c green salad OR green veggies, season with BRAGG’s amino’s
Meal 4: 150g. tuna, 120g steamed rice, 2 c. green veggies,
Meal 5: 200g chicken, 2 c. green veggies and 3 Fish Oil caplets Glass of Metamucil
Meal 6: 1 scoop of Slow Release Protein mixed with water and 1 scoop (5 grams) of L-Glutamine.
Half hour before your weight training workouts take Creatine
post work out take 5g glutamine and amino acids, 40g protein w banana

I have always need high protein intake to help stop use of muscle due to the thyroxine I have to take.

**sassy69** · 06-29-2010, 01:13 AM

LOL - I'm too lazy to put that into a food counts program - but you get my point. I eat somewhere around 240 g of protein myself.

If you want to bump up the dose, go for it. The only thing I'd say is that you're doing the experiment w/ your own body chemistry so just watch the sides. Winstrol is notorious for causing voice change and such. And then decide how much you're ok with - it may be no biggie, you may not like it. The secret is finding the sweet spot for your body chemistry. You can always bump it back down if you need to. It will take a little while for the higher dosing to clear but that's just part of what comes w/ playing on the dark side.