Jay vs. Kai

**Carolyn Bryant** · 05-16-2010, 05:03 PM

Can Kai at his best beat Jay at his best?

**"Rodz"** · 05-16-2010, 05:22 PM

I think Jay has one more in him, Kai should win the Arnold, but the judging always seems different at the Olympia

**the mighty stu** · 05-16-2010, 05:35 PM

Yeah, I think Jay's got one more in the tank. Kai is still on his way up,.. but I don't think Jay's quite on his way down though.

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**chris mason** · 05-16-2010, 05:38 PM

If they are both at their best I would go with Cutler purely on physique. Beyond that, Cutler is WAYYYYY more marketable than Kai who chooses to be even more odd than any freak of muscle is by having a ridiculous hairdo and wearing masks etc.

AVBG · 05-16-2010, 05:45 PM

Kai will have momentum this year.. I don't think Jay is consistent with peaking year to year especially because he only ever competes once a year.

**MiamiMadePunk** · 05-16-2010, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by AVBG

I don't think Jay is consistent with peaking year to year especially because he only ever competes once a year.

agreed. Last time I checked, Jay peaks for the like the last minute every year expect for 2009 and has trouble holding water 1-2 weeks out. Whatever Jay did last year, he better stick to it otherwise we will know by his face that he is holding water and will lose.

**OneWideBack** · 05-16-2010, 06:17 PM

Jay by a mile!

**peopleschamp11** · 05-16-2010, 06:20 PM

Kai and Jay?!

Wait 'till people see Phil at the O. Everyone is gonna' shit eggs.

**Ironguru** · 05-16-2010, 06:21 PM

Jay Cutler, Kai is looking good but he isn't quite there yet.

If Jay can bring it with that conditioning he brought last year along with some more muscle, it's probably lights out for everyone.

**.!.** · 05-16-2010, 06:22 PM

^^ yep, i agree, phil would be jay before kai would in my opinion.

**BuffGuy** · 05-16-2010, 06:38 PM

Jay can win another 4 more if he wants too.. he is not old yet, although a lot of millage on him...

**trap** · 05-16-2010, 06:44 PM

the think is that we don't know what Kai's best is.
Jay will be bigger but not as sharp as last year i think

**Carolyn Bryant** · 05-16-2010, 09:13 PM

Thanks guys. I agree with just about all the posts. I'd have to see Kai and Phil standing next to each other to make a call on that matchup. We don't know what Phil's best is either because he still growing.

Kai is as big as he should ever get. If he tries to beat Jay with pure mass he'll lose. He needs to score big points in other rounds.