Lr3 IGF-1 (first time question)

[Big Puppy]

igf and hgh are two different animals. look up reconstituting igf under his name.

[beezy13]

I understand they're different but we're talking about bacteria and sterility once mixed right? how would the igf become unsterile if the hgh wouldn't? i guess i'm just having a hard time understanding this. its not like i need it to last for a year or even months. i need to mix it and have it last for a week, 2 at the max. i guess i'll just pm him cause i'm still having such trouble grasping this.

[Big Puppy]

Since you wouldn't search i searched for you. here you go. Some reps would be appreciated.
[ame="http://forums.rxmuscle.com/showthread.php?t=33129"]Runinng Low Dosages of IGF-1LR3 - RX Muscle Forums[/ame]

[s2h]

heavyiron wrote about this. Do a search for igf with his name. The problem is you don't know how they made it. So it is safer to use aa.

jusdt like he said....if you dont know your igf source to see if they used AA in the powder mixture(it's a dry AA mixture)....then use AA and that solves your problem.....

[s2h]

Since you wouldn't search i searched for you. here you go. Some reps would be appreciated.
Runinng Low Dosages of IGF-1LR3 - RX Muscle Forums

got ya covered on reps bro.....

[beezy13]

Since you wouldn't search i searched for you. here you go. Some reps would be appreciated.
Runinng Low Dosages of IGF-1LR3 - RX Muscle Forums

thanks for the link and i did rep u. i read it and heavy says to use AA jus like in his other thread. Problem is there is now consensis. I know heavy knows his shit but numerous othed posters in that thread said you could use ba water. honestly the whole acid thing kinda worries me alittle and if there is another way i'd jus like to find it, thats all. like i said i only need it to be mixed for a couple days so if ba water can do that it would be great and the answer to that is all i'm after.

[s2h]

thanks for the link and i did rep u. i read it and heavy says to use AA jus like in his other thread. Problem is there is now consensis. I know heavy knows his shit but numerous othed posters in that thread said you could use ba water. honestly the whole acid thing kinda worries me alittle and if there is another way i'd jus like to find it, thats all. like i said i only need it to be mixed for a couple days so if ba water can do that it would be great and the answer to that is all i'm after.

ive heard of guys using apple cidar vinegar instead of AA....anybody heard that one?

[Big Puppy]

I have used aa for 2 months now. now problems whatsoever. the only way you can use ba is if you get the 100mcg kits and use 50 and then 24 hours later you use 50. I know how you feel but you're being paranoid. and since you have the 1000mcg kit you have no choice. Not that big of a deal. No tissue necrosis. no problems. and heavy knows more shit than most of us combined. You would shit if you knew how many 20-25 year olds (no offense if you know you're shit and you're that age), but keyboard warriors are amongst us. They have never used and like to be a badass.

[maxjenics]

I have actually heard of some mixing the 1000mcg with BA water then splitting into many dosed syringes (i.e. 25 or 50mcg per syringe), and then freezing the lot. When one is needed it is taken out of the freezer and thawed in the refridgerator overnight then pinned the next day. This way the igf is spot preserved in the frozen state...it can degrade unless its in the liquid state.

For what its worth I dont do this. I get distilled malt vinegar from the supermarket (British), run it a few times thru a whatman (syringe) filter, then mix it with BA water(yes, BA water as I don't throw into this de-nature belief) at a ratio of around 7 to 1 (6.6 to 1 to be precise) and this AA+BA mixture can then be used with the 1000mcg vials.

I still get a slight blood sugar dip from using 40-50mcg pwo even with the last of the bottle, so I know that the BA hasn't denatured it. Obviously, feel free to argue otherwise xxx

My 2 pennies worth.

Cheers.

[beezy13]

I have used aa for 2 months now. now problems whatsoever. the only way you can use ba is if you get the 100mcg kits and use 50 and then 24 hours later you use 50. I know how you feel but you're being paranoid. and since you have the 1000mcg kit you have no choice. Not that big of a deal. No tissue necrosis. no problems. and heavy knows more shit than most of us combined. You would shit if you knew how many 20-25 year olds (no offense if you know you're shit and you're that age), but keyboard warriors are amongst us. They have never used and like to be a badass.

Thanks man, it does make me feel a little better. I'll just get my hands on some AA(.6% correct?) and do it that way. I cetainly know heavy knows his shit and I've learned alot reading his stuff. I'd like to think I know w alittle bit and I've done a few cycles of stuff just never tried this and so you're right I probably was being paranoid. Thanks again and sorry for all the questions.

[Big Puppy]

try it out you'll be fine.

[beezy13]

Sounds good. I found some AA so I plan to start once it arrives.

[BiggTexx]

I have actually heard of some mixing the 1000mcg with BA water then splitting into many dosed syringes (i.e. 25 or 50mcg per syringe), and then freezing the lot. When one is needed it is taken out of the freezer and thawed in the refridgerator overnight then pinned the next day. This way the igf is spot preserved in the frozen state...it can degrade unless its in the liquid state.

This is exactly the way to do it. Reconstitute the IGF-1 LR3 with BW and split the individual doses in individual syringes. Then place them in the freezer. This will keep the peptide from degrading. It takes me ~ 3 minutes to thaw out 20-40 mcgs and you are ready to go. AA for most of us will cause severe pain no matter now much it is diluted.

[beezy13]

Been using the AA for a couple weeks now. No pain and very easy, hope to start seeing results soon.

[jacshelb]

Been using the AA for a couple weeks now. No pain and very easy, hope to start seeing results soon.

Good deal! If you don't mind, could you pm me where you got your aa from? I've been wondering what the best way to go with this is as well. I've found the 98% stuff, but what to dilute with... etc.

I'll be using mgf/igf protocol post workout in muscles worked.