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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldog08 View Post
    There isnt anyone in the NBA who dosent believe Lebron will have multiple championships. Even his doubters around the league this year have no doubt when its all said and done he will have multiple rings. Its just going to happen. Ovechkin much like Lebron, didnt live up to his role as leading a team this postseason. Talk of ovechkin even losing the "C" has been going on just like they have talked about lebron not having the mental edge or the "it" factor mentall like Jordan and Kobe.
    If go's to the clippers or some other small market team (other the Cleveland) he's done till he finds his way back. He can't win a championship by himself, and he is the only player some of these small teams can afford.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goodfellas View Post
    LeBron should go to Miami with Dwayne Wade. Miami is a nice place to live every time I see pics on tv.
    lol, sorry GF but Miami is a dump. They have some bball history now, but the city is mostly Cuban ghetto

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rattbones View Post
    lol, sorry GF but Miami is a dump. They have some bball history now, but the city is mostly Cuban ghetto
    The nice parts of it are really nice, but most of the city sucks

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    Well it looks nice on TV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rattbones View Post
    If go's to the clippers or some other small market team (other the Cleveland) he's done till he finds his way back. He can't win a championship by himself, and he is the only player some of these small teams can afford.
    Are you serious? The clippers are actually one of the only teams he could go to, other than chicago, and IMMEDIATELY contend for a championship.
    The clippers have ENORMOUS talent already and adding a Lebron would only make that talent even greater.
    The clippers have Griffin,Kaman,Butler,Gordon, Gooden, Davis, Craig Smith, and Travis Outlaw. ALL of those guys are above average-good NBA talent, and many are VERY GOOD players. Its likely that Davis wouldnt be back in Lebron were to go there for money reasons, but thats not prob. Put Lebron on the court with Kaman(all-star) Butler(all-star talent already) gordon(all-star talent already) and Griffin and that is a starting 5 who can compete with ANYONEs starting 5 in the NBA. James would significanly help those players. Hes not going to go to LA though but if he did, sorry bro that team would be no joke. Talent wise, that team would be amongst the top 2-3 in the NBA. No question about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HammerStrength12 View Post
    The nice parts of it are really nice, but most of the city sucks
    really, I though it was the bomb........

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldog08 View Post
    Are you serious? The clippers are actually one of the only teams he could go to, other than chicago, and IMMEDIATELY contend for a championship.
    The clippers have ENORMOUS talent already and adding a Lebron would only make that talent even greater.
    The clippers have Griffin,Kaman,Butler,Gordon, Gooden, Davis, Craig Smith, and Travis Outlaw. ALL of those guys are above average-good NBA talent, and many are VERY GOOD players. Its likely that Davis wouldnt be back in Lebron were to go there for money reasons, but thats not prob. Put Lebron on the court with Kaman(all-star) Butler(all-star talent already) gordon(all-star talent already) and Griffin and that is a starting 5 who can compete with ANYONEs starting 5 in the NBA. James would significanly help those players. Hes not going to go to LA though but if he did, sorry bro that team would be no joke. Talent wise, that team would be amongst the top 2-3 in the NBA. No question about it.
    I think your overstating. The Clippers that everyone else watched this year were 29W-53L. Regardless of what massive talent you think they might have there not winning games. If Lebron were to go to them there lucky if they make the playoffs. There no where near a top tier team even with Lebron. Put it to you this way San Antonio was 7th in the West and they would still have more talent then the Clippers with Labron. He has far more talent around him in Cleveland then he would have on the Clippers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rattbones View Post
    I think your overstating. The Clippers that everyone else watched this year were 29W-53L. Regardless of what massive talent you think they might have there not winning games. If Lebron were to go to them there lucky if they make the playoffs. There no where near a top tier team even with Lebron. Put it to you this way San Antonio was 7th in the West and they would still have more talent then the Clippers with Labron. He has far more talent around him in Cleveland then he would have on the Clippers.
    Agree, especially if they were to lose Baron Davis as well. They'd be beyond lucky to make playoffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin198922 View Post
    Agree, especially if they were to lose Baron Davis as well. They'd be beyond lucky to make playoffs.
    ya there SOL without Davis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rattbones View Post
    I think your overstating. The Clippers that everyone else watched this year were 29W-53L. Regardless of what massive talent you think they might have there not winning games. If Lebron were to go to them there lucky if they make the playoffs. There no where near a top tier team even with Lebron. Put it to you this way San Antonio was 7th in the West and they would still have more talent then the Clippers with Labron. He has far more talent around him in Cleveland then he would have on the Clippers.
    Lebron going to ANY team makes them at least a playoff contender. What was cleveland before he got there? Worse than the clippers. Lebron raises everyones talent around him. He is the reason Mo Williams was an all star when at best, mo is a very average player overall.
    If you had just put Blake Griffin on the court last year, that translates into more wins even. Lebron EASILY gets them 15 more wins just by being on the team. Rasul Butler is better than anyone on cleveland other than Lebron. Eric gordon is better that any guard cleveland has had since lebron has been there. Chris Kaman is an all star and a solid very good player. Blake Griffin, once he gets his rythym in the NBA will be one of the best players in the west. All those guys around Lebron(Baron Davis would not be any significant loss) would be even better and I have yet to hear one person/analyst say any differently. 16 of the clippers losses were by 5 points or less and that is where having Lebron and Griffin has the biggest effect. Even without Lebron, cuz hes staying in cleveland, with Griffin back the Clipps will be AT LEAST a .500team. Easily. Wouldnt be a suprise if they were to even make the playoffs. Anyone who thinks the clippers arent an extremely talented team didnt watch many of their games or dosent know what talent really means. Record dosent always reflect talent. The clippers didnt have one person as a defined "go to" person last year and they were thrown off track and their plan for the year when Griffin got hurt. This year griffin will bring 20+ 10+ from the start and many feel 25 and 12 will be a very constant line for him. Clippers will be much better without Lebron and should he somehow go there, that team is a 45 to48 win team easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rattbones View Post
    ya there SOL without Davis
    Barron Davis is an average player at this point. No big loss to them at all. Eric Gordon and Rasul Butler are both far better players at this point in time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rattbones View Post
    I think your overstating. The Clippers that everyone else watched this year were 29W-53L. Regardless of what massive talent you think they might have there not winning games. If Lebron were to go to them there lucky if they make the playoffs. There no where near a top tier team even with Lebron. Put it to you this way San Antonio was 7th in the West and they would still have more talent then the Clippers with Labron. He has far more talent around him in Cleveland then he would have on the Clippers.
    San Antonio is a good TEAM. Duncan isnt even a top 20 player in the game anymore even though he had a decent post season. The most talented person on San Antonio is Ginobli. Once you get past Parker, Ginobli and Duncan....where are these supremely talented people you talk of? Mason? Gordon, Butler, Kaman and Griffin are all more talented. The kid from Pitt? Id still take Kaman over him any day and so would GMS.
    Do you really think that without Lebron that those guys on Cleveland would be that good? Take Lebron off that team and they arent a playoff team. they are a 20 win team at best. Past Lebron and ill give you Jamison, who on the Cavs right now is better than Kaman, Gordon, Griffin and Butler? Even Shaq RIGHT NOW isnt as good as those guys. J.J. Hickson is the only guy really who compares TALENT WISE to those guys. What about Drew Gooden? Solid soild player and while he will likely be going back to Dallas, because thats where he wants to be, he brings better SOLID play night in night out than anyone on cleveland other than James, Varejeo. Cleveland was this good because Lebron and if he leaves you will see just that. They will drop to a 20 win team and whatever team Lebron goes to will increase their wins by at LEAST 15 games first year.

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    Griffin coming back is gonna be huge too. Is he gonna be another Greg Oden? I hope not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldog08 View Post
    Barron Davis is an average player at this point. No big loss to them at all. Eric Gordon and Rasul Butler are both far better players at this point in time.
    Rasul butler has never been good. Def not near b Davis level. Gordon will be better down the road, not now though

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldog08 View Post
    San Antonio is a good TEAM. Duncan isnt even a top 20 player in the game anymore even though he had a decent post season. The most talented person on San Antonio is Ginobli. Once you get past Parker, Ginobli and Duncan....where are these supremely talented people you talk of? Mason? Gordon, Butler, Kaman and Griffin are all more talented. The kid from Pitt? Id still take Kaman over him any day and so would GMS.
    Do you really think that without Lebron that those guys on Cleveland would be that good? Take Lebron off that team and they arent a playoff team. they are a 20 win team at best. Past Lebron and ill give you Jamison, who on the Cavs right now is better than Kaman, Gordon, Griffin and Butler? Even Shaq RIGHT NOW isnt as good as those guys. J.J. Hickson is the only guy really who compares TALENT WISE to those guys. What about Drew Gooden? Solid soild player and while he will likely be going back to Dallas, because thats where he wants to be, he brings better SOLID play night in night out than anyone on cleveland other than James, Varejeo. Cleveland was this good because Lebron and if he leaves you will see just that. They will drop to a 20 win team and whatever team Lebron goes to will increase their wins by at LEAST 15 games first year.
    Still won't better than spurs.

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