Dave what`s your opinion on carb loading with 1000+ grams of carbs per day???

[Kyle Witherspoon]

kyles diet is great and works great i ate similar when i worked with G. Farah but it bores the living fuck out of me, there are several ways to skin a cat and quite frankly some are a lot funner and more enjoyable that others. lets see rice or pancakes? I'll take all the Pancakes you can eat for 1000 ALEX! [/quote]

Maybe i should try that. I love pancakes. That awesome your eating like that maybe im just scared to LOL By the way looking thick bro. Your going to make me look small next to you LOL

[Lenny]

well eating typical brainwash bodybuilding food like rice, oats, yams, and such sure thats a lot of carbs and would kill my stomach, BUT get lean, workout hard all week and doing cardio sessions depleting your body then let me throw a big stack of pancakes in front of you dripping with syrup and you tell me how easy would it be to throw down a boatload of carbs ha ha ha YUMMY!

kyles diet is great and works great i ate similar when i worked with G. Farah but it bores the living fuck out of me, there are several ways to skin a cat and quite frankly some are a lot funner and more enjoyable that others. lets see rice or pancakes? I'll take all the Pancakes you can eat for 1000 ALEX!

Amen to that, pancakes or rice? I choose pancakes

[maxxmuscle]

that doesnt tell me much.. where are your legs? your back? your hams?

Shit I know guys who are 12-10% bodyfat who have abs like yours because they hold all there fat in there legs.

Ross...You look very impressive...but when you compete,you need the details like Xmas tree lower back,split hams etc.Most guys at a BB competition will have abs ( or should have ! ) its the details above that will make you stand out from the crowd.Unless you have a very gifted metabolism,you are going to have to drive the carbs down to get in true contest shape....

[powergraham]

Sure we spoke about this in the Gym ? This is the way i do it.....Load heavily for 2 days ( 2 x 1000g ) spill....and leave 1 - 2 days for the water to move.Some guys can move the water in 1 day....usually the most you need is 2....

We did, but it went over my head a bit lol. Most of the stuff I've read is a 3 day carb up going into your peak for the show, not trying to spill, which is why I got a little confused when you were talking about the lads carbing up 5 days out.

Sometimes I'm a bit numb.

For Ross, it seems the theory behind carb depletion and load up is asinine, which I disagree with. Your body isn't stupid. If it goes without something, it holds on to it when it comes back. Hence why you get good rebounds off a diet, your body goes mental when you come off a keto diet etc.

Hence, depleting your carbs, and robbing your body of glycogen for a short period, will trick your body into holding more glycogen when you carb load. Your body will overcompensate incase of the same scenario.

You can argue that you should be full and big all the time, but the point is that you can look bigger, and fuller.

[maxxmuscle]

Very few are nice and full ALL the way through prep.This is where the head games kick in and you get guys throwing in the towel 4,3,2...even 1 week out.When the carbs come down to very low levels and you are flat,you look/feel small...but the fullness will come back when the carbs are put back.Its tough to get your bodyfat extremely low when you are "Full" all the time.Suck it up,drive the carbs down....and stay covered up and dont be looking at yourself all the time or the head games kick your ass ! I go in the shower with the light off the last few weeks when im flat as a fart and feel "Tiny" ( Joke ! .... but i make sure i stay covered up ! )

[joe d]

like with everything in this sport...........DEPENDS ON THE PERSON!

yep. on my lowest carb day i could never hit a low of even 300g. i was cutting on a steady 600g vs my normal 1200g

[maxxmuscle]

Wish i could diet on 600g Carbs You must have the metabolism of a humming bird !

[joe293]

HA HA HA LOL no bro, its 2500-3000 grams of carbs for the day! and its not just complex carbs.

saturday's breakfast was
7 blueberry pancakes with syrup (a lot of syrup)
3 cups of cocoa puffs cereal in chocolate protein powder and water mixture (i stay away from milk).
2 whole wheat bagels drowned in strawberry preserves
package of chocolate rice cakes (about 6 large round rice cakes)

this was just breakfast!

and about stomach discomfort, yes i am gassy the following day, lethargic, and not much of an appetite, but monday im back to normal and starving, back to baseline weight, hard, dry, and full as hell.

Holy Crap !!!!