Dave what`s your opinion on carb loading with 1000+ grams of carbs per day???

[brooklyn wolf02]

I listened the radio show with CHAD NICHOLLS and he said about carb loading DENNIS WOLF with 1000+ carbs a day,and I know that you carb up your athlets with very moderate intake like 30 grams per meal 6 times a day (even if it`s 300 grams for bigger guy like TONEY FREEMAN that`s pretty on a low side)!!! WHATS THE DEAL WITH CARBING UP WITH THIS VEEERY HIGH CARB LOADINGS?? I mean if your athlete is shredded to the bone a week out,then last 3 days if you see he is little flat,you carb up him a little more so he can add weight & bodyfat so that his muscles look bigger and fuller?? If you`re satisfied with his condition and you want your athlete just to maintain it,you just carb him with very little carb so he can maintain it?? Can you explain why so many prep gurus incorporate this 1000+ grams of carbs loading couple days before a show,it seems that they are working like every athlete is flat so they have to carb him up with very high carbs and you are the one who carb up with very low carbs!

[Steve56]

like with everything in this sport...........DEPENDS ON THE PERSON!

[brooklyn wolf02]

like with everything in this sport...........depends on the person!

yeah i know that it depends from person to person but-what`s the deal if dave and chad said on the radio show that they would never sacriface fulness for condition-if dave`s athlete is shredded a week before theres no reason to carb him up with 1000+ grams of carbs cause he is gonna put weight...i know that everybody is different but if toney freeman(who is one of the biggest pro`s out there) carbed up on 200 grams of carbs and looked the best in 2008 olympia why would someone else carbed him up with for example 1500 grams of carbs and expect that he came in better shape...

[azn-beef]

i know that everybody is different but if toney freeman(who is one of the biggest pro`s out there) carbed up on 200 grams of carbs and looked the best in 2008 olympia why would someone else carbed him up with for example 1500 grams of carbs and expect that he came in better shape...

i think you answered your question. everybody is different. Flex lewis carbs up with 1200G of carbs and he's <202, and he's always in good conditioning

[hulk7280]

because AFTER a dieting your ass off for 20-16 weeks.. you will BE flat....

you can load on that many carbs if you control water and sodium.. to be as full as possible.

load them early, then clean up any spill over and dry them out..

[brooklyn wolf02]

because after a dieting your ass off for 20-16 weeks.. You will be flat....

You can load on that many carbs if you control water and sodium.. To be as full as possible.

Load them early, then clean up any spill over and dry them out..

you can load on that many carbs only if you`re too flat so you can gain a little and be more full...if you`re flat you can still recuperate...but why then dave carb load on few carbs and others load on 3-4 times more than him??

[powergraham]

After a long time keto dieting, re-introducing that amount of carbs to your system wouldn't work. Your body just wouldn't accept that amount of carbohydrates coming in.

[lomox]

After a long time keto dieting, re-introducing that amount of carbs to your system wouldn't work. Your body just wouldn't accept that amount of carbohydrates coming in.

I can tell you this from experience. I did Keto for 12 weeks then went on a cruise and ate what I wanted (basically carbs). I went from 196lbs to 243lbs in ONE WEEK. After another week of dropping water my net gain was just 4lbs. But it was not pretty! I could barely lift my legs they were so heavy. I got into the specifics in the official Keto thread awhile back.

[brooklyn wolf02]

i can tell you this from experience. I did keto for 12 weeks then went on a cruise and ate what i wanted (basically carbs). I went from 196lbs to 243lbs in one week. After another week of dropping water my net gain was just 4lbs. But it was not pretty! I could barely lift my legs they were so heavy. I got into the specifics in the official keto thread awhile back.

i didn`t understand well-you went from 196 to 243 after one week of eating tons of carbs and then the other week you dropped the water and the only gain was 4 pounds and you was 200 pounds if am correct?? Basicly you gained 40 pounds of water from carbs

[ABOMINATION]

because AFTER a dieting your ass off for 20-16 weeks.. you will BE flat....

you can load on that many carbs if you control water and sodium.. to be as full as possible.

load them early, then clean up any spill over and dry them out..

This is exactly what I do, some call it skip loading.

After a long time keto dieting, re-introducing that amount of carbs to your system wouldn't work. Your body just wouldn't accept that amount of carbohydrates coming in.

true but also not true, If you force enough carbs in a short period of time time say 2 days of carbing to death your body will assimilate the carb and cause it to be stored in your muscle as glycogen.

I can tell you this from experience. I did Keto for 12 weeks then went on a cruise and ate what I wanted (basically carbs). I went from 196lbs to 243lbs in ONE WEEK. After another week of dropping water my net gain was just 4lbs. But it was not pretty! I could barely lift my legs they were so heavy. I got into the specifics in the official Keto thread awhile back.

It's water retention from your body going into overdrive from not being on carbs for so long. My body does the same thing if I'm not careful when reintroduce carbs back into my body. It's actually painful if you don't slowly introduce carbs back in.

[ABOMINATION]

This is what I'm doing, I started taken pictures so everyone can see day to day what happens to my body.

MON: 200 grams every 2 hrs, 1,600/day...minimal fat/protein
TUES: same as Mon
WED: Start the drying out process by eating back to the way I was before carbing up
THUR: same as wed
FRI: same as wed but stop intake of water after 6pm
Sat: no water intake and eat dry carbs

will post pictures after I'm done

[lomox]

i didn`t understand well-you went from 196 to 243 after one week of eating tons of carbs and then the other week you dropped the water and the only gain was 4 pounds and you was 200 pounds if am correct?? Basicly you gained 40 pounds of water from carbs

Correct sir. 40lbs of water. My ankles were non-existent. My HR was at least 150 laying on the bed. If I wasn't so excited to eat again I would have been terrified. I don't recommend anyone try this. This is going from Keto with all carb refeed days where I would gain 8lbs and lose 10lbs the next week... to the goddamn chocolate buffet! Never again.

[Steve56]

yeah i know that it depends from person to person but-what`s the deal if dave and chad said on the radio show that they would never sacriface fulness for condition-if dave`s athlete is shredded a week before theres no reason to carb him up with 1000+ grams of carbs cause he is gonna put weight...i know that everybody is different but if toney freeman(who is one of the biggest pro`s out there) carbed up on 200 grams of carbs and looked the best in 2008 olympia why would someone else carbed him up with for example 1500 grams of carbs and expect that he came in better shape...

Toney is huge..but big or small..he's carb sensitive that why!

[Steve56]

because AFTER a dieting your ass off for 20-16 weeks.. you will BE flat....

you can load on that many carbs if you control water and sodium.. to be as full as possible.

load them early, then clean up any spill over and dry them out..

great post

[Suzanne]

I weigh in at 123-125 and carb up on over 300-400g/day tues and wed then pull then back a bit thurs and fri

Just depends on your body type and diet prior to show. I have carbs in entire time