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06-01-2010, 03:21 PM #16
From my experience, I've had a REALLY tough time carb loading. I don't know if I'm pretty carb tolerant or what (probably... accompanied by my hard-gainer featured WICKEDLY fast metabolism).
For my first show I did my own dieting but adhered to Dave's 30g of carbs a meal on Thursday, 35g a meal on Friday and I was FLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLAT.
My next show I had a trainer from my gym helping me. Because I had problems loading before, we started carb loading on Tuesday and we'd clean up later if need be. We also played with my water and sodium accordingly.
Our plan was to carb up early, then back off later. But we ended up pushing carbs all the way through.... This coincides with what Hulk said:
We got to the point where I was taking in waxxy maize... Luckily that did the trick.
But like others have said, people respond differently.
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06-01-2010, 03:23 PM #17
It all depends on if someone is already in shape before the process even starts...if a guy or girl still has bf...non of this shit will do a thing to make them look any better..it might even make them look worse
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06-01-2010, 03:41 PM #18
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Dave has a diffrent type of approach to the last week.. he loads carbs and FAT! you cant load 1000+ carbs and FAT! There are more then one way to skin a cat and Dave his approach and proves its effective. IMO, I like to include carbs in the entire diet, I beleive it produces a fuller type physique, I think no carb for too long and you start to look stringy.
Every situation is diffrent.. if you have a wicked fast metabolism and your in great shape you can load on much more then 550 grams.. and then could have dried out on friday... I just like to make sure someone is full first then dry out.. because to do the reverse is damn near impossible.
Exactly.. heavly carb loading someone who is 8% bodyfat isnt gonna work.. they are just gonna get soft..
Someone who has dieted there ass off and is 4% or below bodyfat can handle much more carbs and is much more insulin sensative.
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06-01-2010, 03:44 PM #19
I came off keto a couple of weeks back, and had a day back on carbs, had oats for breakfast, two servings of rice, and that was it. The next day I couldn't get off the toilet. I could force all the carbs in I wanted, but I wouldn't want to take an unscheduled toilet break on the stage either.
I think it'll be different for some people over others, and there are different ways to do it too. Each to their own.
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06-01-2010, 06:38 PM #20
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06-01-2010, 06:47 PM #21
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06-01-2010, 07:35 PM #22
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On one of the off topic shows when Milos was on he said he used a similar amount with Dennis when he worked with him and even that was'nt enough. I'm sure you have to have the fat LOW when using that amount of carbs because of the insulin involved during the carb up.
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06-01-2010, 08:19 PM #23
like i think someone mentioned earlier, depends on how "depleted" a person is. meaning how long were they low carbs. also how fast is someone's metabolism. if someone has crazy fast metabolism like people say Wolf has, it makes sense. Either way it depends on the person. no two people prep the same. heck even the same people dont prep the same each year!
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06-02-2010, 06:48 AM #24
The macro's during carb loading vary wildly. You get some people who keep protein in (Our local show the guys were carbing up on protein bars and cookies which I didn't really agree with), you get others who keep protein out, people who like to include fats as that supposedly increases cell volume too.....
Personally, I'd want to be taking in just carbs, little bit of fats, and don't worry about too much protein. You want to be keeping the glycemic load high so that glycogen is getting into and filling your muscles up, but, it will vary from person to person.
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06-02-2010, 02:09 PM #25
LOL thats the idea bro, you want to load, spill, then clean up the mess. I have done it for the last 2 weeks and i load on about 2500-3000 carbs on saturday, spill and look like shit sunday and about 9 lbs heavier, monday morning back to baseline weight and cartoon character looking! same weight i was depleted but full as a house and dry. works great! skip hill is a genius
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06-02-2010, 02:48 PM #26
I'm gona have to write that down, that is easily the best way I've heard of carb loading.
My opinion on it has always been to urr on the side of caution, rather than take the chance of spilling over and coming in looking shit, but that method deffinitely gives you a bit more choice in the matter. What's it like trying to keep that fullness and dry out ?
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06-02-2010, 04:41 PM #27
"Carbing up" is total bullshit dogma. Don't drop your carbs, period. You should always have full glycogen stores, to think this will somehow impede optimal fat-loss is insane and foolish.
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06-02-2010, 04:56 PM #28
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