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Thread: Jay doesn't like to squat?
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06-03-2010, 07:29 PM #31
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Squats separate the true iron warrior from the bench pressing arm curling pretty boys.
If you don't enjoy the feeling of squatting poundages that would snap the backs of mere mortals you are not "hardcore", this is scientific fact!
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06-03-2010, 08:16 PM #32
No exercise is absolutely 'necessary'.
Find several movements that you feel torch that specific body part and stick with them.
You'll find guys that swear by the bench press, while others will swear by weighted dips for chest development. Everyone's structure is different, and thus, everyone is going to have varying degrees of effectiveness from certain exercises. Plenty of guys with sensational backs who never do deads (I love them). We have a huge repetiore of exercises available to us, so don't buy into the bull shit that you need this or that exercise to develop that muscle optimally. IMO, if after a couple weeks of doing a certain movement, nailing the form, you don't feel it then move on.
I get a lot more out of Smith Squats than I do free weight squats.
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06-03-2010, 08:48 PM #33
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Jay has had torn quad muscles and also has herniated discs so I am sure he doesn't like to put himself in the position to exacerbate his injuries. He does have some sick legs..
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06-03-2010, 08:54 PM #34
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06-03-2010, 08:59 PM #35
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For those of you who think that smith squats are better than free weight squat, well guess again:
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06-03-2010, 09:16 PM #36
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I don't think half of the people watched the video. You guys are arguing saying why Jay doesn't need squats or why they are good, but Jay says in the damn video that he is a big squatter, he does them a lot but he doesn't like to do them. He still does them though...
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06-03-2010, 09:45 PM #37
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That Kamali clip is classic! LOL
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06-03-2010, 09:46 PM #38
The 2nd one is one of the best disaster / failure videos I've seen in a while. What do you think hurt the kid more... the broken nose, the broken neck, the broken back, or the torn muscles and ligaments in the legs and knees?
But I still think smith squats are better (but not because they're safer if done right) because like I said earlier, they isolate your legs better. Free squats are more hardcore if doing a balancing act is considered hardcore.
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06-03-2010, 10:53 PM #39
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06-04-2010, 06:18 AM #40
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06-04-2010, 12:06 PM #41
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06-04-2010, 02:01 PM #42
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Hate training legs, they're the hardest bodypart to train, the most taxing, but I like the feeling of acomplishment after they've been trained..
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06-04-2010, 03:33 PM #43
And that's why the truly dedicated keep doing them...anybody can load up the leg press or hack squat machine and crank out hard reps to failure. It's hard, yes, but it doesn't make your legs and entire body scream for mercy the way that heavy, deep squats do. Then again, most people I see squatting don't even go to parallel, so that's no more "hardcore" than leg pressing either.
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06-04-2010, 04:11 PM #44
I'm no big fan of squats either, but I do them. However, I feel the leg presses are useless (for me)! Recently I've begun using the leg press with single leg movement, which I like a whole lot better - and that leads me to the recent Libertore interview on HMR or Off Topic (can't remember which), where he's talking about his complete switch to single leg training instead of the usual squats and leg presses, where you use a lot of core strength to move the weights and the focus on the muscles diminishes. It makes sense to me.
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06-04-2010, 05:05 PM #45
Tom Platz made sure to emphasize, in that interview of his that was posted up here a while back, the importance of "squatting like a bodybuilder", and not like a powerlifter. Bar high up on the traps/neck, and a piston-like motion, while focusing on the quads. His development was basically all from squats, though he occasionally used the hack squat machine and threw in leg curls and extensions when cutting up...
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