Flex Wheelers post on race...is this racism?

[JUSTINIAN]

[ame="http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/showthread.php?t=90278"]I believe in my Race !!! - Muscular Development Forums[/ame] <----thats the link...Dave if u can repost without link please do..i dont know how or i would


Was on the "enemy's" site (sorry Dave ....my heart is with Rx always...better owner, more hardcore crowd, cooler people on Rx, better info, but I bounce everywhere) and I saw this thread...not sure if Flex Wheeler is setting ppl up for something or if maybe he actually really meant what he posted...if he did it borders on racism (actually I'll let you guys decide) to be fair to him there has been an ongoing thing about a police brutality video by a cop against a black woman that was questionable and people got on Flex pretty hard about it so this may be a "reaction" to the criticism he faced.....but I think its interesting. I see people on bbing boards making very racist comments all the time...MUCH more racist then these comments!...but I feel these are genuine feelings imbedded deep within our collective minds in society....and I believe these feelings create more of a gap between us and between the "healing" in our world....

the Bodybuilding world, now brought closer together thru the internet and forums like RX and MD and others is a small microcasm of our society as a whole....and I'm NOT posting this as a knock against Flex but rather as an educational tool to help open up the eyes of white and black people and every color in between that division of any kind only serves to widen that gap....I think most white people will read this and get angry rather than understand (especially because its coming from someone whom many of us viewed as somewhat of a hero growing up in the sport)...they just took the thread down and moved it off the main page but i wanted to post it here and see what you guys thought. Again not as a knock against or to take away from Flex as a man or from the awesome bodybuilder that he was...in some people's eyes the best built man of all time! But thats what makes the thread that much more interesting to me. Especially being a white boy.....I could say hes "wrong" for saying this....but thats easy for me because I'm white...I made a post on there and was dissapointed they took the thread down off the main page...id cut and paste it rather than put the link to the enemy's site Dave but i'm not that computer savy...so if you can do that part u can take the link down....I just thought it a very interesting and controversial topic.....and I like the crowd and their minds better here at RX.....opinions people?? Is this a racist thread Flex posted? If a famous white bodybuilder like Arnold or Dorian made a thread like this how would he be viewed? And is it even fair to make that comparison?? I'd like to hear bbers of all races comments about this as I'm very curious what you have to say. Opinions?

[JUSTINIAN]

this is what was posted on MD...

IFBB Pro Flex Wheeler

I believe in my Race !!!
We are the best Race on the plant!!

Made by God to rule on this earth!!

I believe in my Race

We can do anything we put our minds to!!

I would fight for my race if I had to!!

If you believe in our race make a stand!!! If you don't Fall at our feet!!!










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NOW YOU KNOW WHERE I STAND!!!

__________________
Flex Wheeler
Get your Freak on!!
http://www.aaefx.com
http://www.myspace.com/team_flex_wheeler



.......so is he saying that Black people will rule the earth? and that those who dont believe this should fall at his feet? I dont have much of a problem with the rest but these lines bother me a little....especially coming from such a great bbing champion. If Arnold said this he could forget about ever being President (whether they overturn the ammendment saying a Pres must be born in the US or not!) and if Dorian said this he'd be labeled a white supremist and ridiculed to no end......but are these fair comparisons?

[cook]

Best race on the PLANT. that might be racist

[Ross Erstling]

Definitely the most ATHLETIC race on the planet, that's a biophysiological fact.

Most intelligent? I would say JEWS.

[Steve56]

not the smartest move in the world for Flex....but i dont think he's a racist..I think Flex is a tragic figure in many ways and this is just a cry for attention

[Steve56]

Definitely the most ATHLETIC race on the planet, that's a biophysiological fact.

Most intelligent? I would say JEWS.

In your case it proves not all sterotypes are true

[jaykay]

In your case it proves not all sterotypes are true

[Mobster]

I see no mention of what race Flex says he's a part of. If he means the HUMAN race then I agree. We kick ass.

[Jello]

I think anyone could use those words to show some kind of pride in their race. I'll just pretend that he's Italian so I can agree with it

[R_U_Red_D]

I believe in my Race !!! - Muscular Development Forums <----thats the link...Dave if u can repost without link please do..i dont know how or i would


Was on the "enemy's" site (sorry Dave ....my heart is with Rx always...better owner, more hardcore crowd, cooler people on Rx, better info, but I bounce everywhere) and I saw this thread...not sure if Flex Wheeler is setting ppl up for something or if maybe he actually really meant what he posted...if he did it borders on racism (actually I'll let you guys decide) to be fair to him there has been an ongoing thing about a police brutality video by a cop against a black woman that was questionable and people got on Flex pretty hard about it so this may be a "reaction" to the criticism he faced.....but I think its interesting. I see people on bbing boards making very racist comments all the time...MUCH more racist then these comments!...but I feel these are genuine feelings imbedded deep within our collective minds in society....and I believe these feelings create more of a gap between us and between the "healing" in our world....

the Bodybuilding world, now brought closer together thru the internet and forums like RX and MD and others is a small microcasm of our society as a whole....and I'm NOT posting this as a knock against Flex but rather as an educational tool to help open up the eyes of white and black people and every color in between that division of any kind only serves to widen that gap....I think most white people will read this and get angry rather than understand (especially because its coming from someone whom many of us viewed as somewhat of a hero growing up in the sport)...they just took the thread down and moved it off the main page but i wanted to post it here and see what you guys thought. Again not as a knock against or to take away from Flex as a man or from the awesome bodybuilder that he was...in some people's eyes the best built man of all time! But thats what makes the thread that much more interesting to me. Especially being a white boy.....I could say hes "wrong" for saying this....but thats easy for me because I'm white...I made a post on there and was dissapointed they took the thread down off the main page...id cut and paste it rather than put the link to the enemy's site Dave but i'm not that computer savy...so if you can do that part u can take the link down....I just thought it a very interesting and controversial topic.....and I like the crowd and their minds better here at RX.....opinions people?? Is this a racist thread Flex posted? If a famous white bodybuilder like Arnold or Dorian made a thread like this how would he be viewed? And is it even fair to make that comparison?? I'd like to hear bbers of all races comments about this as I'm very curious what you have to say. Opinions?

[JUSTINIAN]

What does this mean exactly R U Red? Did u read what the guy posted...what are u grading exactly my grammer??

[Timbo89]

hes talking about the human race.
hes just getting people worked up. you're just being retarded.

[G-Roy]

Its blatantly racist. We all know he is african american, so that is implied he means african americans.

If I ,as a white guy, said white people are the best all others should fall at our feet, Al Sharpton might be knocking at my door.

It just proves Flex is a moron. If you are even a quasi celebrity, you dony make comments like that. But then again, it proves the double standards in society and what we accept and dont accept as far as racism.

[Medium Extreme]

Damn, more race shit? Lets just all agree to the basics and move on. Black people are loud and annoying in movie theaters and white people cant dance. Im cool with that.

-Medium

[G-Roy]

hes talking about the human race.
hes just getting people worked up. you're just being retarded.

I dont know if the quote was poste dout of context, but if he's referring to the human race, doesnt that mean hes still a moron? What other race can we compare ourselves to?