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Thread: Puzzeling Happenings with me...
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06-29-2010, 02:59 PM #1
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Puzzeling Happenings with me...
On May 4th 2010 when the PP PO knocked my door in I was running somewhere in the area of 3000mg combined gear per week. Obviously they took all my gear so there was no cycling off…no tapering, no PCT. it was just going from a combined dose of 3000mgs of Sust, EQ, NPP, and Proviron to what ever my nuts make. I must say judging by the size of my tiny testes it certainly could not be much if any at all.
I am not ashamed to say I have ran high miligram cycles for very,very long periods of time with little time off. Six weeks max after 6 months on has been very typical for me for as long as I can remember to be honest. It really just is how it is at the national level. Pretty much everyone I talk to says time on equals time off went out the window a long, long time ago. I did adhere to the on equals off protacal for years but realized it just is not feasiable after a point in time when you have been using for a long time and wish to progress well past genetic limits.
I was a very skinny, lean, wirey kid. Probably why I have such an easy time staying lean no matter what I eat to this day. I am sure over 200# lean mass helps but I think skinny kids make for lean bodybuilders later in life. When I was locked up for 4 days I went from almost 4000 cals of clean carbs and protien to 2000 cals of starch. I dropped 8 pounds in 4 days. I am sure stress had a lot to do with this as well.
Here is the part I do not get. I have been on no gear save for HCGnerate from Needtobuildmuscle.com and Need2slin. I am not pumping his products here because he is my sponsor I am just stating what I am using. Here is weird part. I am still 220# +. I can still see all 6 abs clearly although I have put on at least a percent of BF as I went off diet as I cannot compete now. I am still hitting 225 on incline for 25 reps and all my other lifts are still holding there own. I am still as horny as ever. Still get as good of wood as ever. I am not depressed at all…..and its been almost 8 weeks now since I have seen a needle.
I swear I thought this crash was just going to be horrible. I even talked with my doc about some PCT if needed and he said he would if I needed it. I just do not think I need it! Now even if Needto supps are the best on earth in no way can they come close to 3000mgs of gear a week. or maybe I am wrong about that!!? Maybe its 30yo muscle that just will not go away. Maybe the crash is coming and I am in for a big suprise….I hope not! I will keep an update with other blog posts on this but to be honest I cannot figure this out.
That is the sum of the blog post. I am not pimping product here because I do not need to do so for my sponsorship. It really is just suprising to me I have not turned into a bowl of jello or that my weiner has not turned to the same consistancy as jello. Any thoughts from anyone with similar experiences? I do not mean with the PO PO but with coming off suddenely with no PCT?
Jeff
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06-29-2010, 03:11 PM #2
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One thing I have noticed is my joints hurt like hell. Alleve helps but man do I hurt.
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06-29-2010, 03:22 PM #3
this is so much spamm for this product
like the story then came the sup and you repeat over and over that is a sigh dude.
you are pumping this thing so much. and because he is your sponsor..
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06-29-2010, 03:28 PM #4
Well i would say the real crash is still to come.
3 grams per week is a massive dose and you were using long acting gear thus its probably still in the system.
A friend of mine had been off for 9 weeks and that was a total of 10 weeks since last shot of prop. However, he had hard lump in his delt which he assumed was scar tissue. On the 9th week he got levels test and they were rock bottom. The following week was spent breaking down this "scar tissue". A second blood test was done a week later and the test level was way over the normal range. Obviously it was stored up prop in a sterile abcess that released.
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06-29-2010, 03:57 PM #5
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06-29-2010, 04:09 PM #6
Wow, that's awesome.
Just think of all the money you'll save now.... and you'll probably live a few extra years.
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06-29-2010, 04:33 PM #7
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Actually ...not. I do not have to any advertising or any product pumping. That is why I left LGS. I felt like I was compromising myself through having to constantly talk the supps up on different boards. I can blog post on any subject I choose. This is actually the first supp blog post in almost a year of sponsorship. Look at my other blog posts for proof. I do not push products.
Jeff
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06-29-2010, 04:34 PM #8
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06-29-2010, 04:35 PM #9
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06-29-2010, 04:37 PM #10
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Funny you should say that! I bought his book and am giving to my lawyer! Great book and I suggest anyone who uses at all get it and read it. I had it in my hand 2 times while talking with Rick at the Arnold and did not get it. Would have been better off a little bit if I had. My best advice is do not trust ANYONE who does not have the same last name as you do as I was rolled on.
Jeff
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06-29-2010, 04:44 PM #11
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No offence but when I hear people say things like you just said about the company they are sponsored by I switch off...
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06-29-2010, 04:53 PM #12
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Maybe you should not assume anything. I am not a big supp guy actually. Thermos. Creatine, Vitamins, BCAAs and Glutamine were really the only supps I used prior to this mess I am in. I am not saying Needto Supps are doing this or that I was just saying thats the only supps besides the usual ones I am using so no chemical PCT. Hell I do not even use Whey do to a Whey allergy I developed. Won't go on defending my post. Not do do with the supps. More to do with a crash that has not come yet.
Jeff
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06-29-2010, 04:58 PM #13
Jeff,
As was mentioned, at 3g + a week it's going to take longer than 8 weeks for stuff to clear.
I hate to say it, but expect the crash to come in the next 4 to 8 weeks or so.
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06-29-2010, 05:01 PM #14
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You kept saying "I'm not plugging the company" but you were.
It's like going up to an ugly chick at the bar and calling her nasty looking and then saying "j/k".
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06-29-2010, 05:05 PM #15
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Yeah...I am waiting for it...not with baited breath either. At the very least I will be able to evaluate the over the counter stuff on the market. I was off several years ago while conceiving my son and while it was rough I still hung pretty tough. Just sucks bad as my prep for masters was going so well with Jason Theobold's help. Maybe next year! maybe 3 or 4 years .....
Jeff
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