your masteron experiance

**MrOXY** · 07-26-2010, 09:11 AM

just wanna know your actual fist hand experiances with masteron what cycles used in what the exact effects expected on the body is and dosing etc etc ..thanks

**Gunners** · 07-26-2010, 09:40 AM

It's excellent! Run it around 400mg a week and use the prop ester. One thing with mast is you have to have already low bodyfat, otherwise you won't get shit out of it.

**Warped** · 07-26-2010, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by Gunners

It's excellent! Run it around 400mg a week and use the prop ester. One thing with mast is you have to have already low bodyfat, otherwise you won't get shit out of it.

Dont make the same mistake as me and start it when you are fat. I wasted 2 bottles of mast.

**Bryan Hildebrand** · 07-26-2010, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by Warped

Dont make the same mistake as me and start it when you are fat. I wasted 2 bottles of mast.

^^^ this. BF < 10%.

**s2h** · 07-26-2010, 05:47 PM

low bf is correct....dont waste your money on it unless your competing or have money to burn.....

**MrOXY** · 07-26-2010, 09:04 PM

yes all this low body fat talks is what i was told about long ago and made me stay away from it at that time.. now ive just been givin a few bottles for free

so im just going 2 throw it in the mix with what im already using ... my avi pic was taken a few days ago and i dont think im in the correct bf levels yet 2 see the full bennifet of masteron i guess but im more intrigued by the anti e effect of mast and thats the main reason why im adding it in my stack ..would it have a good effect on anti e levels ?

**Gunners** · 07-27-2010, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by MrOXY

yes all this low body fat talks is what i was told about long ago and made me stay away from it at that time.. now ive just been givin a few bottles for free so im just going 2 throw it in the mix with what im already using ... my avi pic was taken a few days ago and i dont think im in the correct bf levels yet 2 see the full bennifet of masteron i guess but im more intrigued by the anti e effect of mast and thats the main reason why im adding it in my stack ..would it have a good effect on anti e levels ?

A wise man learns from his mistakes, a very wise man learns from others mistakes.

Can't tell your BF from the avi, can only see a huge arm

You should really go for single digit BF before running mast otherwise it just tends to smoothe you over in my experience. If your BF is low it will really carve out lines in your body like nothing else. Don't confuse this stuff as a weaker version of tren, you will get very little strength gains or mass with mast.

**NPCKnight** · 07-27-2010, 11:18 AM

100-150EOD Mast Prop. Low bodyfat.

**MrOXY** · 07-27-2010, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by Gunners

A wise man learns from his mistakes, a very wise man learns from others mistakes.

Can't tell your BF from the avi, can only see a huge arm

You should really go for single digit BF before running mast otherwise it just tends to smoothe you over in my experience. If your BF is low it will really carve out lines in your body like nothing else. Don't confuse this stuff as a weaker version of tren, you will get very little strength gains or mass with mast.

damm why would it smooth out ? the low body fat issue is the reason why i never used it or purchased it b4 ..i was givin 10 free bottles

so i just would like 2 use it for the anti e effect as im extremely estro and progest prone when on any compound ...would it provide me with any anti e benefit regardless of bf ?

Originally Posted by NPCKnight

100-150EOD Mast Prop. Low bodyfat.

man all this low body fat talks makes me wanna get ripped and see what it does 2 me ... 2 more months should do the trick
why mast and prop ? why not prop and tren ?

**needtogetaas** · 07-27-2010, 11:41 AM

Its increases to strength and aggression can be felt at any bf%. The fact that it lowers estrogen and progesterone makes it great as a synergistic stack with other compounds like deca or tren. Again these effects are going to take place no matter what your bf% is.

Its vascular effects wont be seen unless at low bf% but thats about it.

**Gunners** · 07-27-2010, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by needtogetaas

Its increases to strength and aggression can be felt at any bf%. The fact that it lowers estrogen and progesterone makes it great as a synergistic stack with other compounds like deca or tren. Again these effects are going to take place no matter what your bf% is.

Its vascular effects wont be seen unless at low bf% but thats about it.

This makes no sense at all from my perspective. Strength and aggression is nothing compared to test or tren. The fact it lowers estrogen/progesterone, i would prefer to run letro, much more effective!

**needtogetaas** · 07-27-2010, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by Gunners

This makes no sense at all from my perspective. Strength and aggression is nothing compared to test or tren. The fact it lowers estrogen/progesterone, i would prefer to run letro, much more effective!

Letro is kind of harsh and its deff not going to add anything to the cycle. Rather the chance of it reducing gains is a lot more.

The main reasons for Drostanolone's medical creation was 1. lower cholesterol
2. To reduce estrogen/ dependent tumors.

http://www.mesomorphosis.com/article...i-estrogen.htm

Hate it love it what ever. The facts all add up in this write up so I will post it as a reference to the discussion ^^^

But going back to your comment that using letro as a Ai on cycle is better? Well considering all facts here I would have to disagree. Yes letro is stronger and it will lower estrogen more then Drostanolone will. But lets pare them up against each other for on cycle use.

Overall lowering estrogen
Letro wins mast 0/letro 1

cholesterol/lip profile

Letro will negatively effect cholesterol
Drostanolone will positively effect cholesterol
mast 1/ letro 1

Prevent progesterone sides.
Mast 2/ letro 1

Effects on gains from the cycle
Letro will only negatively effect them
Drostanolone can positively them.

Mast 3/ letro 1

I don't think we have to keep going it looks like masterones running away with this one IMO. To each his own ,we all react differently and many of us overtime find what works for us best. Masterone can effectively be used for other reasons then just getting a harder muscle look.

**Gunners** · 07-27-2010, 05:14 PM

^^^Hmmm.... touchy perhaps?

The reason letro can have a negative effect on lipids is because it's very effective at it's job (in other words low levels of estrogen will result in a poor lipids profile).

As far as negatively affecting gains??? Letro has been shown to increase LH, FSH and SHBG! Why are you saying it will hinder gains? That's nonsense, sorry.

Aromasin, adex and letro are all far better choices than masteron for AI purposes.

Have you ever even run Masteron? It's completely pointless running it for what you mentioned as there are FAR better choices out there!

**needtogetaas** · 07-27-2010, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by Gunners

^^^Hmmm.... touchy perhaps?

The reason letro can have a negative effect on lipids is because it's very effective at it's job (in other words low levels of estrogen will result in a poor lipids profile).

As far as negatively affecting gains??? Letro has been shown to increase LH, FSH and SHBG! Why are you saying it will hinder gains? That's nonsense, sorry.

Aromasin, adex and letro are all far better choices than masteron for AI purposes.

Have you ever even run Masteron? It's completely pointless running it for what you mentioned as there are FAR better choices out there!

Ya I guess if I looked at every conversation like it was a argument or contest I guess I would be touchy. I steer clear of this way of thinking and looking at things though. Best left up to the people who like to argue for what ever reason it gets them off. Not my cup of tea.

I share what I have to share. I agree or disagree based of many reasons but just for the sake of being right or winning isn't one of them. Getting touchy would indicate some kind of emotional attachment to the conversation, of which I have non. Thank you for caring about my feelings enough to ask though, that was very nice of you.

I shared what I wanted to share. I think Masterone works great to keep estrogen and progesterone low during a cycle well at the same time adding a nice increase to strength and aggression. I put forth facts to support it and now I am done..

It was great talking with you friend. I hope you have a fantastic evening.

**joe d** · 07-27-2010, 08:34 PM

mast. can be used in place of an ai fore those who only get a slight estro elevation. masteron will help you on cycle more than any ai will as long as your estro is down. if you want to prevent shut down use hcg or hmg.

its just another way of doing things. neither method is right or wrong.