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    week 1-16 Test eth 250mg EOD
    week 1-8 Eq 200mg EOD
    week 9-16 Tren Ace 100mg EOD

    I'm gonna start PCT 1 week after my last injection. This is my 4th cycle.

    Thoughts? Ive run this much tren before, last time it was tren eth though. Im not sure about running the EQ for only 8 weeks. I haven't been on in almost 10 months.

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    If you can handle eod shots for 4 months go for it, but not necessary with such long esters. Run EQ for the whole 16 weeks(or stop 2 weeks before the test due to longer ester). 8 weeks is very short with EQ. Tren at the end looks good. Really good cycle I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warped View Post
    If you can handle eod shots for 4 months go for it, but not necessary with such long esters. Run EQ for the whole 16 weeks(or stop 2 weeks before the test due to longer ester). 8 weeks is very short with EQ. Tren at the end looks good. Really good cycle I think.
    i agree, also il add that theres really no point to inject test-e EOD, twice a week is fine. So why not extend EQ for maybe 12 weeks instead of 8. Then after that 12th week switch to tren and stay on test. 4 extra weeks of test wont kill you, so why not just take advantage of the EQ a bit more IMO.

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    Good point about the EQ. I think im gonna shorten up the cycle to 12-14 weeks running the test and eq the whole time. I will use the tren the last 6-8 weeks.

    I wanna run 750mg of test and 600mg of eq per week. Its gonna be hard to do hitting up 2x a week. Last cycle i did i hit up EOD. i was using 750-1000g of test depending on the week and i blew up. i feel ya tho, i much rather hit up 2x a week instead of EOD

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    After i figured it all out its definitely gonna be
    Test eth 250mg MWF weeks 1-13
    Eq 200mg MWF weeks 1-13

    Im either gonna run the tren ace for the last 6 weeks or the last 10 weeks. I ran tren eth for 10 weeks last year but never tren ace. is 10 weeks to long?

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    Actually, you can get the same results from pinning Test E e5d as well. Twice a week injections don't make a huge difference in blood levels and stability. It's up to you though. I would reduce your pinning frequency though, because you should want to reduce the amount of scar tissue build-up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivid04 View Post
    Actually, you can get the same results from pinning Test E e5d as well. Twice a week injections don't make a huge difference in blood levels and stability. It's up to you though. I would reduce your pinning frequency though, because you should want to reduce the amount of scar tissue build-up.
    wrong ...bad advice

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    Quote Originally Posted by s2h View Post
    wrong ...bad advice
    I'm assuming you want to inject 750mg test e/wk, being that your original dose was 250mg/eod, which equals 750mg/wk.

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    Testosterone Enanthate 250mg Injected Every Other Day:
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    Day 113: 1391.4mg T, 0mg E/D/T
    Day 114: 1260mg T, 0mg E/D/T
    Day 115: 1391.4mg T, 0mg E/D/T
    Day 116: 1260mg T, 0mg E/D/T
    Day 117: 1391.4mg T, 0mg E/D/T
    Day 118: 1260mg T, 0mg E/D/T
    Day 119: 1391.4mg T, 0mg E/D/T
    Day 120: 1260mg T, 0mg E/D/T

    Well, here's what I'm posting in my defense. And also e5d isn't unheard of when it comes to test e administration.

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    The difference seen in blood levels between e5d administration and eod administration vary yes, but their difference is a 2.5:1 ratio. This is quite proportional in that 250mg is 3 times less than 750mg, but fortunately because of the long ester it is not a 3:1 ratio, but slightly less. Meaning that though your blood levels may appear to be on a "roller coaster", your blood levels will be higher. If you look at your levels after week 2 (Day 14) you've accumulated 945.1mg T on a eod dosing schedule, but you've acquired 1103mg T on a e5d schedule. The other plus is that if you look at roughly day 80 between the two injection schedules, you'll notice that you've built a maximum blood level of ~1920mg T and a minimum of 1292mg T on a e5d schedule and ~1260mg T maximum on an eod schedule. E5D administration wins this battle in my opinion.

    In comparison to a twice a week injection schedule, you'll notice that by day 14, you've accumulated 771.9mg T and by roughly day 80, you have a maximum T level of 1306.9mg and a minimum of 970.9mg T.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivid04 View Post
    The difference seen in blood levels between e5d administration and eod administration vary yes, but their difference is a 2.5:1 ratio. This is quite proportional in that 250mg is 3 times less than 750mg, but fortunately because of the long ester it is not a 3:1 ratio, but slightly less. Meaning that though your blood levels may appear to be on a "roller coaster", your blood levels will be higher. If you look at your levels after week 2 (Day 14) you've accumulated 945.1mg T on a eod dosing schedule, but you've acquired 1103mg T on a e5d schedule. The other plus is that if you look at roughly day 80 between the two injection schedules, you'll notice that you've built a maximum blood level of ~1920mg T and a minimum of 1292mg T on a e5d schedule and ~1260mg T maximum on an eod schedule. E5D administration wins this battle in my opinion.

    In comparison to a twice a week injection schedule, you'll notice that by day 14, you've accumulated 771.9mg T and by roughly day 80, you have a maximum T level of 1306.9mg and a minimum of 970.9mg T.
    ok were do i start???...charts like that are nice and mildly informative...the question is "who's bloodwork is that?"..what's there age...what is there natural level...is it Ug or pharm grade test...are they taking ANYTHING along side the test....could go on and on..in womens health and wellness they reported a "serious" chance for breast cancer from prempro...but they didnt account for the percentage of women out of 30k that by % would have gotten it any way...they gave bad press and misinformed information..before you give someone "sound" advice make sure it's not from a unknown chart with unknown users and unknown conditions...twice a week monday/thursday is fine...every fifth day will cause a unstable level in most adult men...as far as scar tissue..that's part of the game...move your site's around or dont use needles...

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    For replacement in the hypogonadal male, 50-400 mg should be administered every two to four weeks.

    - http://www.rxlist.com/depo-testosterone-drug.htm
    Testosterone Enanthate has a release time of between 8-10 days. It is typically injected once every one to three weeks, though some users opt for a twice a week frequency as well.

    - http://www.mesomorphosis.com/steroid...-enanthate.htm
    For low testosterone levels the injection is initially given once every two to three weeks, and then every three to six weeks for maintenance treatment.

    - http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/medicines/100002564.html
    Those who deviate from once every 5 days will experience a fluctuation in hormone levels, causing more side effects.

    - http://www.leanbulk.com/forum/aas/12...ers-guide.html
    T-cyp injections every 5 days is working better.

    - http://tnation.t-nation.com/free_onl...injectionshelp
    Obviously using it every 5 days isn't unheard of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivid04 View Post
    Obviously using it every 5 days isn't unheard of.
    never said it wasnt unheard of.....there are just as many articles that say eod or ed is best...you have your opinion and that's great it's a free country...

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    Every 5 days is the bare minimum with enanthate ester. I have done every 7 days with great results. The doctors gives their patients a shot every 14 days so who knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s2h View Post
    never said it wasnt unheard of.....there are just as many articles that say eod or ed is best...you have your opinion and that's great it's a free country...
    I mostly recommend twice weekly or e5d injections simply for scar tissue buildup.

    Quote Originally Posted by Warped View Post
    Every 5 days is the bare minimum with enanthate ester. I have done every 7 days with great results. The doctors gives their patients a shot every 14 days so who knows.
    Yes it is (kinda), but it is also effective as you said already. I think it is more important to do what's effective, rather than do what's popular....

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    I depends on the amounts oil you inject too. 6 cc of oil every 5 day is just too much. Then I like to break it up to 3 times a week.

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