Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 20

Thread: Cruising/HRT

  1. #1
    PENCILNECK xmusclex's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Michigan
    Posts
    15
    Rep Power
    0

    Default Cruising/HRT

    I'm coming off a 16wks of 500mg test. and 400mg EQ a week cycle. I usually follow up with a PCT running HCG, aromisan, and clomid for 3wks with decent results, but a few weeks later I feel like shit. Don't feel right until I get back on. Had my test. levels check two yrs ago and was at 240. Do you think it's time that I cruise with test. until I get back on my next cycle? At what mg should I cruise on test. for? I also have 400ius GH on hand and 3000mcg of IGF-1Lr3 on hand. Should I include any of these during my cruise? Any suggestions would be helpful.

  2. #2
    OLYMPIAN s2h's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    16,860
    Rep Power
    2148230

    Default

    depending on a per person basis things can differ ...if you are PCT'n and you find that your levels dont return then there's a good chance they wont...alot of this is age dependant and how long you have been using AAS...at this time you may want to look into cruising...200-300mg a week is a normal range you may want to look at..keep up the bloodwork to judge what is best for you...

  3. #3
    OLYMPIAN s2h's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    16,860
    Rep Power
    2148230

    Default

    peptides are a good addition to not only your normal stack but also a cruising phase...there has been alot of disscussion on this board about s4...i am not to famaliar with it but look into some posts by jacobs and he goes into depth about the subject...

  4. #4
    OLYMPIAN s2h's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    16,860
    Rep Power
    2148230

    Default

    jaceshelb is the poster with the s4 info...there's a post on here right now about it..

  5. #5
    BARBARIAN BROTHER Warped's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    2,380
    Rep Power
    189028

    Default

    Cruising and staying on is totally up to you. How old are you?
    I feel a cruise should be a cruise(low dose test). And when you blast you blast with higher doses aas and you add the peptides. This way you get the most out of your cycle. A cruise could be 4 weeks.

  6. #6
    PENCILNECK xmusclex's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Michigan
    Posts
    15
    Rep Power
    0

    Default

    I just turned 37. I was thinking I could cruise for 12weeks at 200mg of test. I just started hearing about the S4. I need to check it out. Should I not even bother with PCT if I run a low dose of test?

  7. #7
    OLYMPIAN s2h's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    16,860
    Rep Power
    2148230

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by xmusclex View Post
    I just turned 37. I was thinking I could cruise for 12weeks at 200mg of test. I just started hearing about the S4. I need to check it out. Should I not even bother with PCT if I run a low dose of test?
    37 is an age were aot of guys look to cruise instead of PCT...the natural levels are diminishing and PCt'n wont bring them back in certain people...if your gonna cruise to brdge between cycles then pct isnt needed...you either bridge or you dont...dont need both...

  8. #8
    BARBARIAN BROTHER Warped's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    2,380
    Rep Power
    189028

    Default

    Yeah. No point in coming off now lol. No pct is needed. Some like to run some hcg to keep their bois alive.

  9. #9
    PENCILNECK xmusclex's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Michigan
    Posts
    15
    Rep Power
    0

    Default

    Well it looks like I might have to stay on test for life, at this point. A little GH probably couldn't hurt to run with the test. Or should I run it with my next cycle? What ya think?

  10. #10
    BARBARIAN BROTHER Warped's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    2,380
    Rep Power
    189028

    Default

    Swiper, if you know who he is recommended 3iu ed for 3 months before the cycle. Then you up the dose to 10iu,which is the dose you build muscle with.
    If you start now while in the cruise period the GH starts working good when you start a cycle.

  11. #11
    PENCILNECK xmusclex's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Michigan
    Posts
    15
    Rep Power
    0

    Default

    That sounds good warped. I wasn't sure where I wanted to throw the GH in. I hear it can take months before the GH kicks in anyways. Good thinking bro!

  12. #12
    OLYMPIAN s2h's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    16,860
    Rep Power
    2148230

    Default

    gh for fat burning purposes is effective at 2iu's a day(pharm grade)...continued use is best...not stop and go...

  13. #13
    PENCILNECK xmusclex's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Michigan
    Posts
    15
    Rep Power
    0

    Default

    Yes, thats what I was thinking run 2ius up til I start my cycle then bump up the dose to 8ius-10ius a day during cycle. Was that what you had in mind?

  14. #14
    OLYMPIAN s2h's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Posts
    16,860
    Rep Power
    2148230

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by xmusclex View Post
    Yes, thats what I was thinking run 2ius up til I start my cycle then bump up the dose to 8ius-10ius a day during cycle. Was that what you had in mind?
    there's many different schools of thought on GH dosing...if your looking to use it as a "fat burning" tool than 2iu's is fine to stay with...the concept of high dosing has been proven to be mildly effective at best...the question would it be is it a good bang for the buck..i would say No...and the sides from prolonged high GH use have been proven to be not so good..if your looking for the muscle building aspect than there are other more affordable options

  15. #15
    BARBARIAN BROTHER Warped's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    2,380
    Rep Power
    189028

    Default

    I thought people started low and experimented with what dosages that works best for them?

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

X vBulletin 4.2.3 Debug Information

  • Page Generation 0.18329 seconds
  • Memory Usage 7,194KB
  • Queries Executed 27 (?)
More Information
Template Usage (43):
  • (1)SHOWTHREAD
  • (1)ad_footer_end
  • (1)ad_footer_start
  • (1)ad_global_above_footer
  • (1)ad_global_below_navbar
  • (1)ad_global_header1
  • (1)ad_global_header2
  • (1)ad_navbar_below
  • (1)ad_showthread_firstpost_sig
  • (1)ad_showthread_firstpost_start
  • (1)ad_thread_first_post_content
  • (1)ad_thread_last_post_content
  • (2)bbcode_quote
  • (4)block_html
  • (1)block_threads
  • (1)facebook_footer
  • (1)facebook_header
  • (1)facebook_likebutton
  • (1)facebook_opengraph
  • (1)footer
  • (1)forumjump
  • (1)forumrules
  • (1)gobutton
  • (1)header
  • (1)headinclude
  • (1)headinclude_bottom
  • (15)memberaction_dropdown
  • (1)navbar
  • (4)navbar_link
  • (1)navbar_noticebit
  • (1)navbar_tabs
  • (3)option
  • (1)pagenav
  • (1)pagenav_curpage
  • (1)pagenav_pagelink
  • (15)postbit_legacy
  • (15)postbit_onlinestatus
  • (15)postbit_wrapper
  • (3)showthread_bookmarksite
  • (1)sidebarext_temp
  • (1)spacer_close
  • (1)spacer_open
  • (1)tagbit_wrapper 

Phrase Groups Available (6):
  • global
  • inlinemod
  • postbit
  • posting
  • reputationlevel
  • showthread
Included Files (37):
  • ./showthread.php
  • ./global.php
  • ./includes/class_bootstrap.php
  • ./includes/init.php
  • ./includes/class_core.php
  • ./includes/config.php
  • ./includes/functions.php
  • ./includes/functions_navigation.php
  • ./includes/class_friendly_url.php
  • ./includes/class_hook.php
  • ./includes/class_bootstrap_framework.php
  • ./vb/vb.php
  • ./vb/phrase.php
  • ./includes/class_facebook.php
  • ./includes/facebook/facebook.php
  • ./includes/facebook/base_facebook.php
  • ./includes/functions_facebook.php
  • ./includes/functions_bigthree.php
  • ./includes/class_postbit.php
  • ./includes/class_bbcode.php
  • ./includes/functions_reputation.php
  • ./includes/class_block.php
  • ./includes/block/html.php
  • ./vb/context.php
  • ./vb/cache.php
  • ./vb/cache/db.php
  • ./vb/cache/observer/db.php
  • ./vb/cache/observer.php
  • ./includes/functions_notice.php
  • ./includes/block/threads.php
  • ./packages/vbattach/attach.php
  • ./vb/types.php
  • ./packages/skimlinks/hooks/postbit_display_complete.php
  • ./packages/skimlinks/hooks/showthread_complete.php
  • ./mobiquo/smartbanner.php
  • ./mobiquo/include/classTTConnection.php
  • ./mobiquo/smartbanner/head.inc.php 

Hooks Called (78):
  • init_startup
  • database_pre_fetch_array
  • database_post_fetch_array
  • friendlyurl_resolve_class
  • global_bootstrap_init_start
  • global_bootstrap_init_complete
  • cache_permissions
  • fetch_postinfo_query
  • fetch_postinfo
  • fetch_threadinfo_query
  • fetch_threadinfo
  • fetch_foruminfo
  • load_show_variables
  • load_forum_show_variables
  • global_state_check
  • global_bootstrap_complete
  • global_start
  • style_fetch
  • global_setup_complete
  • showthread_start
  • cache_templates
  • cache_templates_process
  • template_register_var
  • template_render_output
  • fetch_template_start
  • fetch_template_complete
  • friendlyurl_clean_fragment
  • friendlyurl_geturl
  • fb_canonical_url
  • fb_opengraph_array
  • parse_templates
  • fetch_musername
  • notices_check_start
  • notices_noticebit
  • process_templates_complete
  • showthread_getinfo
  • strip_bbcode
  • forumjump
  • friendlyurl_redirect_canonical
  • showthread_post_start
  • showthread_query_postids
  • showthread_query
  • bbcode_fetch_tags
  • bbcode_create
  • showthread_postbit_create
  • postbit_factory
  • postbit_display_start
  • reputation_power
  • reputation_image
  • postbit_imicons
  • bbcode_parse_start
  • bbcode_parse_complete_precache
  • bbcode_parse_complete
  • postbit_display_complete
  • memberaction_dropdown
  • pagenav_page
  • pagenav_complete
  • tag_fetchbit_complete
  • forumrules
  • showthread_bookmarkbit
  • navbits
  • navbits_complete
  • build_navigation_data
  • build_navigation_array
  • check_navigation_permission
  • process_navigation_links_start
  • process_navigation_links_complete
  • set_navigation_menu_element
  • build_navigation_menudata
  • build_navigation_listdata
  • build_navigation_list
  • set_navigation_tab_main
  • set_navigation_tab_fallback
  • navigation_tab_complete
  • fb_publish_checkbox
  • fb_like_button
  • showthread_complete
  • page_templates