Paleo Diet (input and personal experiences wanted)

[Shadow]

^ how much do you weigh?

[•P®øD¶G¥•]

206, high bf%.

[flipper]

Do you guys find the paleo diet more suitable for hard training over Palumbo's diet?

[DamnDirtyApe]

Do you guys find the paleo diet more suitable for hard training over Palumbo's diet?

Paleo is agnostic on Carb intake. It can very high or very low depending on your needs. Hunter-gatherer carb intake varies from 5% or less (Innuit, Masai) to 75% or more (Kitavans etc). They key thing they have in common is lack of refined sugars and flours, no processed foods, and no vegetable oils.


Probably the best (least inflammatory and insulin spiking) source of starchy carbs are sweet potatoes. Personally I end up eating them a few times a month. I eat pancakes made from buckwheat flour once a month. Rice is somewhat innocuous as well, all things considered.

So for most training needs I have found that a low carb paleo where I get carbs from veggies like cauliflower, onions, broccoli, mushrooms etc + 85% dark chocolate gives you more than enough to keep out of ketosis and fuel workouts.

But for serious mass gaining, adding extra carbs helps a lot and sweet potatoes, buckwheat, occasional rice etc is a bonus. But by all means avoid wheat/flour etc. if you want to retain any semblance of paleo.

[DamnDirtyApe]

I think the premise for the paleo diet borders on assinine and the rabid anti legumes/nightshades/gluten/dairy stance is a little retarded if you are not allergic BUT if you are following a paleo diet you are avoiding just about every possible allergy and processed food from your diet so if you eat your meat and veggies you'll almost certainly improve your diet unless. Personally I have no problems with dairy, legumes or nightshades. I also have no issues with gluten but I tend to avoid breads simply on the basis of too much carb calories.

I agree somep eople can get a little too dogmatic and cultish with paleo. Perfect example is butter. It's definitely a neolithic food source, but because of its components, grass-fed pastured butter or ghee is not worth worrying about. I eat it liberally.

But regardless of whether or not you feel you have a pronounced gluten intolerance, gluten intake is always inflammatory to some extent as is the accompanying insulin spike from refined flours. A lifetime of chronic low level inflammation and elevated blood sugar causes cancer, atherosclerosis, arthritis, Alzheimers, diabetes etc.

So just because someone is not a full-blown Celiac does not mean it's not causing sub-clinical problems. Fully 25% of all people tested show positive for gluten anti-bodies in their feces, which means their immune system is responding poorly on some level. Milk is a similar problem for some people, since apparently certain types of milk from some newer breeds of cows causes anti-body production in many people.

(for more on controlling inflammation , check out http://coolinginflammation.blogspot.com/ )


So it makes sense to avoid foods like wheat especially since other less problematic foods deliver more than enough nutrients. Breads Pastas etc are nutritionally very very poor compared to veggies, meat, fruit, eggs etc. That's why you often see them "fortified" with vitamins and minerals.

[Bull_Rhino]

Paleo,very strict Paleo(grass fed meats and free range chickens) can be quite expensive to follow.

Also where I live fruits and veggies have to come from somewhere else in the winter months. so the prices go up.

also Raw milk has to be bought from a farmer. We have an Amish creamery notto far from us, but it is rather expensive, which is why Ionly use it once a day with a protein shake.

as far as the meat goes we co-op with another family and buy sides of grass fed beef from a local farmer. it's cheaper if you can get other to go in with you on the meats.

my training partner who got me into Paleo has a great saying."If it comes in a box,it aint food"