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[stavios]

whatever you did, it worked !
Compared to your junior national prep, it's a night and day difference.

[epifiny]

i have all of your 2008-2010 preps in email ;p - i love re-reading your threads - learned so much.

[KevinCouch]

Your pics from 8 days out last year looked awesome! When thumbing thru them there were a couple that it looks like were taken at Nationals too. Just from the small pics I wasn't there but it looks like you were just as hard at 8 days out and fuller than you looked at the show even without a tan. That's just how it looks like in the pics IMO. Do you think that was the case? I know I looked better a week before the Masters last year. I was dry and shredded but not quite as full and round as I was at 170.

[Scoobysnacks]

Your pics from 8 days out last year looked awesome! When thumbing thru them there were a couple that it looks like were taken at Nationals too. Just from the small pics I wasn't there but it looks like you were just as hard at 8 days out and fuller than you looked at the show even without a tan. That's just how it looks like in the pics IMO. Do you think that was the case? I know I looked better a week before the Masters last year. I was dry and shredded but not quite as full and round as I was at 170.

I was full as a house in those 8 day out shots, taken at night, but certainly not dry as I was at nationals. Those were the night before my Qualification show. I loaded 500 carbs that friday and 2 gallons water just to see what would happen. I weighed in the next morning 163 as a welter and won my class. The morning of weigh ins for nationals i was still 160. I had to decide to make 155 or think about being welter. I decided to dry the hell out and go LW. I can tell ya this I was WAY drier at Nationals than my warm up show. That said you live and learn. Should I have tried to make weight? I do, I mean at 160 morning weight I wasnt going to contend for top 5 against Prisk, Santa etc guys who are showing up at 170lbs and trying their damndest to get in at 165. I think it saved a DNP for me and truth be told, this is not be being bitter, but two judges said I was in fact looked over, did not deserve the call out I was in. I posted a few pics below from both sides to show I dont think I lost that much fullness but really dried out well and came in sharp as shit, I would put this conditioning (as one of the tops in the class) against ANYONE who was in that class.

[KevinCouch]

I was full as a house in those 8 day out shots, taken at night, but certainly not dry as I was at nationals. Those were the night before my Qualification show. I loaded 500 carbs that friday and 2 gallons water just to see what would happen. I weighed in the next morning 163 as a welter and won my class. The morning of weigh ins for nationals i was still 160. I had to decide to make 155 or think about being welter. I decided to dry the hell out and go LW. I can tell ya this I was WAY drier at Nationals than my warm up show. That said you live and learn. Should I have tried to make weight? I do, I mean at 160 morning weight I wasnt going to contend for top 5 against Prisk, Santa etc guys who are showing up at 170lbs and trying their damndest to get in at 165. I think it saved a DNP for me and truth be told, this is not be being bitter, but two judges said I was in fact looked over, did not deserve the call out I was in. I posted a few pics below from both sides to show I dont think I lost that much fullness but really dried out well and came in sharp as shit, I would put this conditioning (as one of the tops in the class) against ANYONE who was in that class.

Yes I can see with these pics you were dry as a bone, glutes, hams!! Some lights really make a physique look incredible and others can wash you out. We were both in the same situation when I was a few pounds over welters and I saw Stoliv (monster five foot 2 guy middleweight winner, 2nd place Nationals too) and I knew I couldn't beat him with size as a middle so I decided to drop 4 pounds last day to make welters and it worked out. I was working with George Farah and he told me I needed to go down to welters to win and he was right. But I think it's a mind game too when you're full hard and vascular and you have to drop a few pounds to get bone dry and lose a little vascularity and fullness to get there. I know some shots of me at Masters I did look flat and some shots I didn't. For me it's my weaker bodyparts that flatten out when I'm dry (chest!!!) and others look better. We'll just keep pluggin away and continue to creep up the weightclass!

[ayezer]

both guys look great yes you both are kind of in between lightweight and the top of welterweights who seem to be a little smaller middleweights.


good luck Jay
Kevin keep putting the muscle on.

[Scoobysnacks]

Yes I can see with these pics you were dry as a bone, glutes, hams!! Some lights really make a physique look incredible and others can wash you out. We were both in the same situation when I was a few pounds over welters and I saw Stoliv (monster five foot 2 guy middleweight winner, 2nd place Nationals too) and I knew I couldn't beat him with size as a middle so I decided to drop 4 pounds last day to make welters and it worked out. I was working with George Farah and he told me I needed to go down to welters to win and he was right. But I think it's a mind game too when you're full hard and vascular and you have to drop a few pounds to get bone dry and lose a little vascularity and fullness to get there. I know some shots of me at Masters I did look flat and some shots I didn't. For me it's my weaker bodyparts that flatten out when I'm dry (chest!!!) and others look better. We'll just keep pluggin away and continue to creep up the weightclass!

Yep for sure, you made the right choice. I know the guy you are talking about though he has no biceps which if you were full you maybe could take him, he lost both I think in powerlifting accidents. Anyways, my chest does the same when flat it leaves me first bc its a weak bodypart.