Scivation Extend

[s2h]

With Gakick he would have pulled 800

hell if the plates werent 7 ft outside the bar he would have pulled 900.....

[beezy13]

This. If you worked in the industry you'd now how shady the companies are, how useless most products are and how some of this stuff can actually be dangerous to your health. That's not to say there are some great supplement out there.

But still, once you're on gear, you really don't need any otc supplements

That's why I find it hilarious when people on gear comment on otc supplements. I just started Syntha-6 2 weeks ago. And I can honestly say, I've never felt this strong, pumped or powerful in the gym. Already put on 3lbs of lean muscle in 2 weeks*











*I started test 2 weeks ago as well

Exactly, once you've been on gear you realize that is the only thing that really "works" and you can see all the $ you've wasted over the years. It really is a same the public have been lied to so long that they actually believe all the commercials. Sure there are products that will help you and are good for you but nothing will ever give you steroids results except the real thing.

[HammerStrength12]

Exactly, once you've been on gear you realize that is the only thing that really "works" and you can see all the $ you've wasted over the years. It really is a same the public have been lied to so long that they actually believe all the commercials. Sure there are products that will help you and are good for you but nothing will ever give you steroids results except the real thing.

And the people doing all the selling/promotions aren't even taking the product, they're just on test and tren for mass and clen and t3 for fast loss LOL.

And I'm not calling out any 1 company in particular. This is how the entire industry works.

[beezy13]

^^^ Agreed 100%!

[Timbo89]

just remember, supplements are supplemental, not fundamental.

[GENESIS]

what pharm companies make otc performance enhancing supps?

Lonza ltd. is a company that makes products for both pharmaceutical companies and dietary supplements.

everyone who is dieting? really? How many times have you competed in bodybuilding? Because I still always have a protein shake before my workouts...

3 times. And that was more in reference to morning cardio routines, not full body workouts.

[beezy13]

[quote=GENESIS;1165146]Lonza ltd. is a company that makes products for both pharmaceutical companies and dietary supplements.

I think Dymatize as well also has a plant in Florida that does some pharmaceutical products for various companies. could be wrong though

[HammerStrength12]

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