Xtend and Insulin release

[jtg987]

Hi everyone, I'm currently dieting using keto and have been drinking a lot of xtend in the hopes too avoid muscle loss. While doing some reading I've come across that BCAA's can stimulate the body to release insulin(which is something I'm trying to negate)

is there any proof on this or is it broscience?


a lot = 12-20 scoops a day

[Manavs]

id suggest you get yourself a glucometer from your local walmart for $20 and test your blood sugar first thing in the morning on an empty stomach, take your serving of product, then retest 20 mins and 30 mins post ingestion.

if you have any spike in glucose it will obviously be from the product and bet your bottom dollar that glucose spike will create an insulin response.

i've done this test with numerous products, very interested in your results.

keep us posted

[jtg987]

id suggest you get yourself a glucometer from your local walmart for $20 and test your blood sugar first thing in the morning on an empty stomach, take your serving of product, then retest 20 mins and 30 mins post ingestion.

if you have any spike in glucose it will obviously be from the product and bet your bottom dollar that glucose spike will create an insulin response.

i've done this test with numerous products, very interested in your results.

keep us posted

I'm an aussie, sadly we don't have walmart. Is a glucometer what diabetics use? with the drop of blood?

[Manavs]

I'm an aussie, sadly we don't have walmart. Is a glucometer what diabetics use? with the drop of blood?

yes exactly - any pharmacy will carry them

http://www.epharmacy.com.au/product....itoring+System

[loogerheaven]

I think thats why polumbo don't like BCAA because on a keto diet you are fasting so insulin will spike. I stick to carb diets all the bcaa and I get ripped

[Growin24/7]

I have done it myself...I took xtend for months at 6-8 scoops daily until I realized it was jacking my blood sugar up everytime I took it...without fail it would raise my blood sugar to 135-145 when my normal blood sugar is usually 108-110.

This is one of the main reasons why I switched to ALRI's chain'd out...no raise in blood sugar and its one hell of an anabolic supplement!

But like Manavs said do the test yourself to c! Goodluck brother

[ArabMuscle]

Whey protein spikes insulin too. Dave doesn't advise using BCAAs in his keto diet because you're already consuming enough amino acids derived from whole protein sources and protein powder throughout the day. Adding in BCAAs would only increase protein calorie count, which in turn throws the whole equation off.

Dave also realizes Whey protein's insulin-spiking capabilities, thus adding in fats to meals w/ protein shakes, in turn keeping blood-sugar levels stable.

Nonetheless, Scivation's XTEND does spike insulin pretty well, making it ideal for both intra & post-workout supplementation.

A great way to use it on a keto diet is to consume a non-calorie booster (coffee, Jack3d, etc) 2 hours after a solid meal and 30 minutes prior to a workout, then sipping on 2-3 scoops of Xtend while working out. I tried this method and managed to lose a good amount of bodyfat.

Of course with the method above, you don't need to consume a pre-workout protein shake since you're already ingesting 20-30g of Xtend intra-workout.

[tipsta]

Hi everyone, I'm currently dieting using keto and have been drinking a lot of xtend in the hopes too avoid muscle loss. While doing some reading I've come across that BCAA's can stimulate the body to release insulin(which is something I'm trying to negate)

is there any proof on this or is it broscience?


a lot = 12-20 scoops a day

BCAA's are the only amino acids that need insulin to cross the cell membrane and Leucine is the primary driver and has shown to increase insulin output by over 200% when added to carbs...However the pathway of action to muscle loss is Gluconeogenesis which is defined as the body breaking down muscle tissue, mainly under a workload, to attain mainly glutamine from skeletal muscle as its the most abundant amino in human muscle tissue and send it to the liver to make glucose... Of all the 20 amino acids used by the body only 2 can not be used to make glucose and Leucine is one of them so the reality is you are doing little to no benefit in your quest to preserve muscle with this protocol...However under true Ketosis the body is using very little glucose and primarily Ketones....

[tipsta]

id suggest you get yourself a glucometer from your local walmart for $20 and test your blood sugar first thing in the morning on an empty stomach, take your serving of product, then retest 20 mins and 30 mins post ingestion.

if you have any spike in glucose it will obviously be from the product and bet your bottom dollar that glucose spike will create an insulin response.

i've done this test with numerous products, very interested in your results.

keep us posted

I believe he asked if the aminos themselves spiked insulin and not the sugars but you are on point!!!

[tipsta]

Whey protein spikes insulin too. Dave doesn't advise using BCAAs in his keto diet because you're already consuming enough amino acids derived from whole protein sources and protein powder throughout the day. Adding in BCAAs would only increase protein calorie count, which in turn throws the whole equation off.

Dave also realizes Whey protein's insulin-spiking capabilities, thus adding in fats to meals w/ protein shakes, in turn keeping blood-sugar levels stable.

Nonetheless, Scivation's XTEND does spike insulin pretty well, making it ideal for both intra & post-workout supplementation.

A great way to use it on a keto diet is to consume a non-calorie booster (coffee, Jack3d, etc) 2 hours after a solid meal and 30 minutes prior to a workout, then sipping on 2-3 scoops of Xtend while working out. I tried this method and managed to lose a good amount of bodyfat.

Of course with the method above, you don't need to consume a pre-workout protein shake since you're already ingesting 20-30g of Xtend intra-workout.

Due to its high BCAA count at 28%.....
Actually under a workload it is quite difficult to signal insulin as blood sugars are being used as energy and the pancreas is releasing glucagon during this period....sugars are only stored outside of any workload which explains why cardio is only beneficial upon waking and following your workout...Insulin is at bay...The only benefits during the training are the sugars that some say are present and the GLUtamine that can be used to make GLUcose as Leucine is one of two aminos that can not fuel this process....Its an amino used in protein synthesis and is defined as a true ketogenic amino acid... As is Lysine