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    I just ordered a bottle haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by HammerStrength12 View Post
    I just ordered a bottle haha
    They have a buy 2 get one free offer I think.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HammerStrength12 View Post
    ^^

    In those studies, the purity of the compound is assured. But considering that most companies who make DMZ clones today are probably unreliable, although they claim the product is DMZ on the label, in reality it could be SD or methyltest. PA did a round of testing on products like these a while back and found some serious inconsistencies between what was on the label and what was in the pill.

    I never realized that pure DMZ was actually a lot easier on the liver enzymes and lipid profile than the other methyls. I always was under the impression that it was pure bro-science. If your bloodwork for this particular clone comes out well (I think Curt took it and is getting his looked at too), I might give this a run.
    Planning on it. Going to wait a few weeks and then schedule blood to be drawn. Gained ten pounds of what I'd call solid weight in four weeks using 10mg (1 capsule) of the IronMagLabs product once per day.

    Quote Originally Posted by heavyiron View Post
    They have a buy 2 get one free offer I think.
    Click the link above. There is indeed a sale. The two get one free on DMZ runs about $90 for the three bottles. Plus any order over $100 qualifies you for free shipping.

    http://www.ironmaglabs.com/products.php

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    Have you maintained most of that during pct?

    I was thinking of running aromasin on cycle, and then doing clomid/aromasin/TestForce 2 for pct. Was how useful HI thought HCG would be on cycle if its only a 4 weeker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HammerStrength12 View Post
    Is there any research that you know of on how hard pure DMZ is on LH and Testosterone Serum?

    The pct product IForce always pushed for their DMZ was a combo of 6-Bromo and ATD, not a great idea IMO.
    Antigonadotropic action of a new steroid with anabolizing activity studied in the anterior pituitary gland of the castrated rat

    Author Beghelli, V.; Mavrulis, A. Organization Univ. Bologna, Italy Publication Source Biochimica Applicata (1962), 9(No. 4), 179-88 Identifier-CODEN BIALAY ISSN 0006-298

    Abstract:

    Seventy-five female rats were divided into 5 groups; 15 served as controls; 60 were castrated and among these, 15 were treated with 17.alpha.-ethyl-19-nortestosterone (I), 15 with 17.alpha.-methyl-17.beta.-hydroxyandrosta-1,4-dien-3-one (II), and 15 with 2.alpha.,(Dimethazine) (III). With each of these steroids, treatment began 48 hrs. after the operation, with 1 mg. of the drug suspended in 0.5 ml. of saline (1% Tween 80 as suspending agent) once daily for 20 days by gavage. The last 15 received the vehicle only, according to the same schedule. The rats were sacrificed 24 hrs. after the last dose, and their pituitary glands and uteri examined. The castrates which received the vehicle only showed very pronounced gonadotropic pituitary hyperfunction, such as formation of castration cells and an increase in basophilic cells. Animals treated with I showed no castration cells at all, and only a small increase in basophilic cells. Those given II had some castration cells, and only a moderate redn. of basophilic cells compared with the untreated rats. The effect of III on the pituitary was almost negligible. In uterotropic activity, measured as the ratio of uterus wt. to body wt., I was most effective; III was intermediate; II showed almost no activity.


    Conclusion:

    This study showed little to no impact on the HPTA. This means that you will likely not experience the “shutdown” effect that is common to anabolics. This may make it easier to keep your gains in size and strength when your cycle is over.


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    Almost sounds too good to be true

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    Quote Originally Posted by HammerStrength12 View Post
    Almost sounds too good to be true
    20 days is a pretty short cycle...lol


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    Missed that part lol.

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    def. interesting. appreciate all the info heavy. orals are somewhat difficult to come by where Im at, so this could be a decent addition to up coming cycle if dbol or abombs dont come up.

    cheers, shorty

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    Once I get paid, I'm getting some.

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    Default Little info I found on dosing

    The standard length seems to be 4 weeks. Some more experience users will go as long as six (6) weeks. Six (6) weeks can be done safely. There's no need to go over that amount. Going over 6 weeks is not recommended and will be harmful to your health.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivid04 View Post
    The standard length seems to be 4 weeks. Some more experience users will go as long as six (6) weeks. Six (6) weeks can be done safely. There's no need to go over that amount. Going over 6 weeks is not recommended and will be harmful to your health.
    Protracted action of protein anabolism in gynecological oncology and its effect on hepatic function.

    Dambrosio, F.; Donatelli, G. Fontana. Univ. Milan, Cancro, Il (1963), 16(5), 553-604. Journal language unavailable. CAN 62:11656 AN 1965:11656 CAPLUS

    Abstract

    Twenty mg. of dimethazine, an anabolizing steroid, was administered daily for 45-95 days to 11 gynecological patients. More than 50% of the cases showed no change in the bilirubinemia, the others showed modest to moderate increases. The glutamic-oxalacetic and the glutamic-pyruvic transaminases of the serum increased greatly in 3 patients. The albumins concn. usually decreased in the course of the treatment, while the globulins concn. did not change.


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    What do you think of this cycle?

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    10/10/20/20
    Supports: Liv52, MN Lipid Stable, MN Pressure Stable

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    Clomid: 50/50/50/25
    5g Creatine, 2.5g Vit C

    Should aromasin be taken on cycle and for pct? It looks like there's little aromatase activity, but I suppose it's always a good idea to have it on hand just in case. I have a bottle of formestane on hand as well.

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    I think 20mg daily is the lowest I would go on the DMZ. I think aromasin may be overkill.


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    Well, since Curt got good results off of 10mg, thought it'd be worth trying. I know this stuff seems milder in theory than SD, but I've seen some pretty scary looking HLD/LDL/Tris from people on more than 20mg a week, even for only 4 week cycles.

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