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11-18-2010, 03:46 PM #31
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10mg will make my little sister grow but that does not mean you should use the same dose...(sorry Curt.)
Just sayin...
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11-18-2010, 07:38 PM #32
I agree with Heavyiron 20mgs seems to be the best starting point. I have seen some guys running 30mgs. DMZ is certainly legit, and very effective.
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11-18-2010, 07:41 PM #33
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11-18-2010, 10:04 PM #34
so no estrogen or progesterone issues and it doesnt shut you down and is great for putting on mass?? gotta be a downfall?
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11-18-2010, 10:29 PM #35
Yep, I have a few bottles of TestForce2. Worked great as a part of PCT for my first test cycle. PA seems convinced that this stuff is the real deal and thinks that DAA could eventually be used as part of HRT.
I like using AIs as well for aromatizing compounds, but the problem with the otc stuff is, just because they say it doesn't aromatize, doesn't necessarily mean anything as many of these products have had a history of being contaminated. So I like to play it safe. But I also know there can be downsides to overdoing it.
That's why I'll probably stick with non-otc stuff, unless there's a ph/designer that comes from a company I can really trust.
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11-18-2010, 10:30 PM #36
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11-18-2010, 10:31 PM #37
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11-18-2010, 10:33 PM #38
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11-19-2010, 08:55 AM #39
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I could but it will be no different from other orals. They all crush HDL.
Over the years I have found a combination of sups that really help my lipids. When I go on orals I step up my liver and lipid support.
Omega 3 fish oils are a start. Do not use a complex. Omega 3 fish oil only. 6 grams daily.
Fiber intake needs to increase. Eat fiberous veggies with your meals. If you cannot get 20 grams of fiber in per day use sups. There are fiber powders for your shakes or chewable fiber tabs. I use 4 grams right before bedtime but I get fiber all day. Fiber can lower bad cholesterol quite a bit.
Plant sterols really lower LDL. I use a product called Cholestoff. It will lower LDL significantly. Here is a site for info. I buy mine at Sams club.
http://www.naturemade.com/hearthealth/
Niacin raises HDL in a dose dependant relationship. When all else fails use Niacin.
Clean eating is not only good for lipids but good for liver health. Avoid bad fats and sugary foods.
CQ-10 is a great anti-oxidant for the heart. It has also been clinically proven to lower blood pressure.
Liv 52 has hundreds of studies demonstrating it's ability to lower liver enzymes and increase protein synthesis.
Hydration is also key to liver health. Drink 1-2 gallons of water daily. When you are on orals and see yellow urine increase your water intake.
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11-19-2010, 10:42 AM #40
Very cool info ^^ It's always best to look at our diet to control AAS sides first then more ancillary drugs, or even worse, lowering our dose!
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11-19-2010, 11:39 AM #41
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11-19-2010, 03:38 PM #42
obviously effective but don't downplay potential hepatotoxicity
I am not trying to be a dick, and agree dimethazine is clearly effective, but we should be cautious about the impact on liver.
There is another way to read the study cited below in this post. It means nearly half the subjects experienced increased bilirubin, with a good portion of those having a problem that was significant. While the alarms over liver and "prohormones" are often overblown, this is two supordrol molecules that is alpha alkylated. Inexperienced users should be careful, especially those without access to blood tests.
Protracted action of protein anabolism in gynecological oncology and its effect on hepatic function.
Dambrosio, F.; Donatelli, G. Fontana. Univ. Milan, Cancro, Il (1963), 16(5), 553-604. Journal language unavailable. CAN 62:11656 AN 1965:11656 CAPLUS
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11-19-2010, 04:48 PM #43
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11-20-2010, 02:07 AM #44
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11-28-2010, 06:07 PM #45
What do you think of this product as a support supplement while on? Seems similar to the one you posted. And it's made by Llewelyn lol.
http://www.molecularnutrition.net/pr...pidstabil.html
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