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    i want to start taking a t3/clen/anavar cycle, but also am starting a new birth control, will these three things effect the birth control and will the anavar even work if i am using both male (anavar) and female (b.c.) hormones??

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    Quote Originally Posted by livmil View Post
    i want to start taking a t3/clen/anavar cycle, but also am starting a new birth control, will these three things effect the birth control and will the anavar even work if i am using both male (anavar) and female (b.c.) hormones??

    I've no idea how hormonal bc might interact with T3 or clen, but anecdotal evidence is that it would tend to reduce the effectiveness of aas. The study that Will just linked provides (for the first time in my experience) actual clinical evidence of that as well.

    maybe someone who knows the specific action of oxandrolone can tell us how that particular compound might be effected by a hormonal bc agent that might compete for the same (androgen) receptors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LookImDancinCrazy! View Post
    I've no idea how hormonal bc might interact with T3 or clen, but anecdotal evidence is that it would tend to reduce the effectiveness of aas. The study that Will just linked provides (for the first time in my experience) actual clinical evidence of that as well.

    maybe someone who knows the specific action of oxandrolone can tell us how that particular compound might be effected by a hormonal bc agent that might compete for the same (androgen) receptors.
    I don't know about literally interacting w/ BC - as they are essentially still the basic hormones in your body which seem to be able to function together appropriately. I think rather the effects of each are contradictory and the end result is reduction in optimal effectiveness of each. I.e. AAS (testosterone) acts to promote lean muscle mass, not contribute to water retention (for those that don't aromatize), while BC (estrogen + progest.. dependending) acts to promote/controlled release of more even levels of estrogen - including water retention, estrogen-pattern bodyfat depositing, etc. Also, BC is supposed to regulate estrogen to produce a regular and predictable period, whereas, AAS tends to cause at least the actual menstrual flow to stop until the compound is cleared, tho other typical menstrual symptoms persist. However, just because the flow stopped doesn't necessarily mean you can't get pregnant, so that is something staying on BC should help support still.

    So I think the one time it really matters if you're on BC while running a cycle is when you're dialing into a competition where the water retention aspect might want to be avoided.

    And a side note about AAS use - any AAS can screw w/ the balance of 'good' and 'bad' vaginal bacteria and result in yeast infections - so acidophilus is a good thing to supplement with.
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    perfect sassy. they simply will make each other less effective. even more so if ingested at the same time. they can cause pituitary confusion and make each other counterproductive.

    i'd think the smart thing to do would be to look into alternative IUD's that dont use slow dosing hormones. that, or back to condoms...

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