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    Quote Originally Posted by daft205 View Post
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    u r one strong dood.

    by the way, some people have reported a LOSS of libido.
    and, some have suggested that this may be from an overly low estrogen.

    are you doing anything/eating anything that may affect your libido outside of the 347?

    i guess everyone responds differently, but,
    at bottom there should also be some sort of trend,
    perhaps dietary,
    that might account for such differences..."


    Yeah, i haven't changed anything about program other than the phyto. I'm hardly taking any other supps- just whey iso, onslaught, and the occasional cissus. I've purposely not been taking anything to fairly judge the phyto- therefore any and all symptoms I've noticed should, theoretically, be attributed to the inclusion of phyto.
    The lowered libido( I've only read one log where someone eluded this) thing makes no sense to me. I definitely don't see the estrogen lowering capabilities of this product being severe enough to effect ones libido/sex drive.
    Actually Im strongly considering adding in an AI, because I fear that estrogen may be elavating to high via conversion. I mean bn, is purported to increase test at nearly ten times the rate it decreases estrogen, so even with that reduction it's still feasible that estro could be elevated through aromatase conversion .
    Just add on MrSupps Forma-Stanzol which is another of Nathans products for estrogen control bro its topical just apply on chest and shoulders and it will also help boost test levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYJetsFan80 View Post
    Just add on MrSupps Forma-Stanzol which is another of Nathans products for estrogen control bro its topical just apply on chest and shoulders and it will also help boost test levels.

    i agree forma would be a nice addition, it should work very well with the phyto

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    Day 21-
    Weight update- 187.1lbms!(+7lbs)
    Feel great! Weight is up and I had a killer chest workout today- set a few pr's. Ive also had a few people asking "what I'm doing differently", in regards to my physique- I'm up about 7 lbs but feel like the visible physical changes are more drastic than that.
    Highlights from today-
    Bench press
    275x9,275x7,275x8- pr's across the board!

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    wow 7 lbs....nice work my man

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    Quote Originally Posted by daft205 View Post
    Day 21-
    Weight update- 187.1lbms!(+7lbs)
    Feel great! Weight is up and I had a killer chest workout today- set a few pr's. Ive also had a few people asking "what I'm doing differently", in regards to my physique- I'm up about 7 lbs but feel like the visible physical changes are more drastic than that.
    Highlights from today-
    Bench press
    275x9,275x7,275x8- pr's across the board!
    awesome man, keep at it
    Confucius say...
    A ripped guy who eats a pizza, then does an hour of cardio is still ripped.
    A fat guy who eats a pizza, then does an hour of cardio is still fat.

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    Day 24-
    So last night I decided to "max out" on squats- something I never do - and it ended up being an incredible workout-filled with pr's- I'm still pumped about it. Here's how it went down-
    Warm ups
    225x2
    275x2
    295x2 pr
    315x2 pr
    335x3 pr
    335x3 pr(got a spotter and did some nice deeps reps)
    350x2 pr- then finished with
    275x10 pr!

    I've never squated( in what I would consider proper form) more than 315- ever! I'm super pleased- this was an epic workout for me.

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    Day 25-
    Well, had another great lift this morning, set a couple more pr's and overall just feeling good. Some highlights were-
    Seated military
    185x9
    205x3 pr
    185x6 (deep, touched clavicle on first 4)

    I'm really exited about my progress as of late and am more motivated than ever to keep pushing it. I think I need to push the diet a little harder and try and keep the scale movin up.

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    PR's are always welcomed with open arms, keep it up man

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    Day 26-
    Destroyed arms last night- good lift only one really notable pr, though. I've recently started doings dips, after not doing them for 8 months due to injury, so last night I did some weighted dips- highlights were-
    Weighted dips-
    Bwx15
    bw+45x10
    Bw+90x8
    Bw+90x6
    Considering I haven't done them in a long time I was pretty happy with numbers.... Update later today.

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    Let me recap the last few days-
    Day 27- solid back routine nothing to notable pretty much par for the course.

    Day 28- great day! I've made huge improvements on my bench- did 315(touched chest) for 4 singles each one perfect- then ended with 275 for 10 clean reps- felt
    excellent strength was on point!

    Day 28- too busy with school and was unable to make it in.

    Day 29- smashed shoulders and hit some pr's. Got 185 on seated military for 10, and then 8. Followed with standing military worked up to 185 and got 3 reps! Very satisfied.

    Day 30- just relaxed and rested up- libido is roaring- my girl is like WTF is going on, lol..


    Day 31- well today is day 31 it's 9 am and I think I'm gonna go do some squats and then spend the rest of the day stuffing my face.... Update later.

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    Nice seeing those numbers rise!!!

    Whats your eating like? What r u taking post workout?
    Confucius say...
    A ripped guy who eats a pizza, then does an hour of cardio is still ripped.
    A fat guy who eats a pizza, then does an hour of cardio is still fat.

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    looking good bro

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    Day 32- from 2-8-11
    Did chest last night and had a great lift, despite the fact that I was super beat from work. I dragged myself into the gym- and walked out feelin like a champ. Hit a couple pr's and got just a massive pump going. Some highlights were-
    Bench press
    315x3(touching chest) pr!
    315x4 ( little bit looser form)

    Incline bench
    275x3 ( did this right after flat)pr!

    Next week I'll start with incline- I bet I can get 6-7 clean reps with 275 if start fresh. I'm amazed how comfortable I was with 315 this week- I did slow deliberate reps and had total control... In another week or two I'm sure I'll be able to do it for 5-6 reps...
    For those that dont remember 4 weeks ago, when I started, I was barely getting 260 for 5-6 reps- so a 55lb jump on bench in just over 4 weeks is not too bad..

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    Day 37-update(from 2-11-11)
    Weight is up! Weighed myself lastnight- 189.4! I am ecstatic! I'm up 9- almost 10lbs! Soo pumped!
    Workouts have been stellar- still moving up on just about everything. Slammed legs last night and having trouble walking today, lol. Highlights from lift were-
    Squats-
    275x10( super deep, perfect controlled reps) pr
    295x8( same strict form^)
    275x8( had to get a little help outta the hole on the last one)
    My training partner is like WTF! And keeps joking that I must secretly be juicing, Lol- he wishes!

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    So seeing as things are going so well, I definitely gonna keep going for at least another 4 weeks, maybe even 6. But seeing as I've established that phyto works, and works well on it's own, I think I gonna add some other goodies to the mix. I thinking a little extra nettle root extract( help free up some test) , a insulin mimetic( I've got some need2slin I've been dying to try), and maybe a little lclt for starters... What do guys think? Ideas? Suggestions?

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