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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobr View Post
    I've been using Tren ace since I started using tren. Recently I got some Tren enathate that I'd like to use on my next cycle. What is the optimum dosing for enanthate?
    300mg ew is fine...E is of course alot longer then ace..it tends to a bit little slower to hit..but when it start it starts...i prefer it over ace except in the pre contest stage...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkris7 View Post
    Never tried GH. Always been old school with the ASS. Think 70's and 80's popular ones.
    My question, now that I am in my mid forties, would it be beneficial to include in a stack?

    And is better for off season, or contest. My purpose would be quality vs. Mass.
    Thanks in Advance.
    if its pharm grade gh..then 2 ius ed will just right..i run mine yr round...great for fat loss and overall well being...Gh for mass is a bad bang for the buck...it just takes way too much GH to make a difference..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan Hildebrand View Post
    Originally posted by HeavyIron.

    HeavyIrons PCT

    Seems like the Pct question comes up a lot here so heres heavyirons PCT. So hopefully this thread helps this question from being asked 15 times a day lol..

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    I strongly believe that an AI should be used as long as there is an aromatizing compound being administered. In this case Testosterone and HCG aromatize therefore using an AI until these meds clear and a few weeks longer is what I am recommending. There is some evidence that adding Nolva to an AI does not increase the effectiveness of estro control therefore Nolva has no real advantage alongside an AI unless one is experiencing gyno. Additionally Nolva has been shown to reduce IGF-1 and GH levels when used alone. This is not a big deal on cycle as testosterone increases IGF-1 in a dose dependant relationship. However off cycle this is a problem. PCT is a fragile time and lower IGF-1 and GH levels is not desirable. I am recommending an AI that is specific to men that can be used on cycle and during PCT. It is my conclusion that Aromasin is the obvious choice.

    I recommend the following PCT protocol for esters like Cypionate and Enanthate;

    Day 1-16 : 2500iu HCG every other day. (You may use less HCG if your testes are normal in size AND you have been using HCG on cycle, i.e. 1,000iu HCG eod.)

    100/100/100/50 Clomid (50mg taken twice per day weeks 1-3)

    20mg/20mg/20mg/10mg Aromasin (20mg daily for 3 weeks, 10mg daily in week 4)

    3g Vit C every day split in 3 doses

    10g creatine daily
    How much letrozole if you have that instead of Aromasin? Man, that's a lot of HCG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s2h View Post
    300mg ew is fine...E is of course alot longer then ace..it tends to a bit little slower to hit..but when it start it starts...i prefer it over ace except in the pre contest stage...

    That was my thinking exactly. I'm looking forward to my next cycle when I can see it in practice. T minus 4 weeks and counting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobr View Post
    That was my thinking exactly. I'm looking forward to my next cycle when I can see it in practice. T minus 4 weeks and counting.
    kool..keep us updated..and good luck at your show...

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