IronMagLabs Cycles

**hulk7510** · 05-27-2011, 10:58 AM

arimedex for an ai,and chlomid plus e-control for pct.

**Bokito** · 06-08-2011, 06:45 AM

the neck i have few questions is it oke if i run superdmz with no liver protection and no ai and just do a pct with nolva and clomid for 4 weeks???

**The Neck** · 06-08-2011, 07:35 AM

Originally Posted by Bokito

the neck i have few questions is it oke if i run superdmz with no liver protection and no ai and just do a pct with nolva and clomid for 4 weeks???

I sure wouldn't recommend it. I would run a liver supp & keep an AI on hand, for sure.

**Bokito** · 06-08-2011, 08:00 AM

thx mate , gonna run it for 4 /5 weeks on 20 mg a day

**Wrex** · 06-15-2011, 05:53 PM

Super-DMZ Rx > Weeks 1-4 (20mg e/d)
1-Andro Rx > Weeks 1-6 (6caps e/d)
E-Contol Rx > Weeks 3-6 (2caps e/d)
Advanced Cycle Support Weeks > 1-8 (3caps e/d)

I'm gonna run this cycle in a few weeks!! Can't wait... Love Ironmaglabs products!!

**Prince** · 06-15-2011, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by Wrex

Super-DMZ Rx > Weeks 1-4 (20mg e/d)
1-Andro Rx > Weeks 1-6 (6caps e/d)
E-Contol Rx > Weeks 3-6 (2caps e/d)
Advanced Cycle Support Weeks > 1-8 (3caps e/d)

I'm gonna run this cycle in a few weeks!! Can't wait... Love Ironmaglabs products!!

awesome, would love to hear your feedback after the cycle.

**beefyfan** · 06-15-2011, 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by Wrex

Super-DMZ Rx > Weeks 1-4 (20mg e/d)
1-Andro Rx > Weeks 1-6 (6caps e/d)
E-Contol Rx > Weeks 3-6 (2caps e/d)
Advanced Cycle Support Weeks > 1-8 (3caps e/d)

I'm gonna run this cycle in a few weeks!! Can't wait... Love Ironmaglabs products!!

Would starting the E-Control a week or two later make more sense? I'm only thinking of the possible rebound. For instance:

1-Andro Rx > Weeks 1-6 (6caps e/d)
Super-DMZ Rx > Weeks 2-5 (20mg e/d)
E-Contol Rx > Weeks 4-7 (2caps e/d)
Advanced Cycle Support Weeks > 1-8 (3caps e/d)

Just an opinion.

**The Neck** · 06-16-2011, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by beefyfan

Would starting the E-Control a week or two later make more sense? I'm only thinking of the possible rebound. For instance:

1-Andro Rx > Weeks 1-6 (6caps e/d)
Super-DMZ Rx > Weeks 2-5 (20mg e/d)
E-Contol Rx > Weeks 4-7 (2caps e/d)
Advanced Cycle Support Weeks > 1-8 (3caps e/d)

Just an opinion.

You can, it's pretty much a case by case basis. A lot depends on how gyno proned each individual is.

**Curt James** · 06-20-2011, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by beefyfan

Would starting the E-Control a week or two later make more sense? I'm only thinking of the possible rebound. For instance:

1-Andro Rx > Weeks 1-6 (6caps e/d)
Super-DMZ Rx > Weeks 2-5 (20mg e/d)
E-Contol Rx > Weeks 4-7 (2caps e/d)
Advanced Cycle Support Weeks > 1-8 (3caps e/d)

Just an opinion.

Originally Posted by The Neck

You can, it's pretty much a case by case basis. A lot depends on how gyno proned each individual is.

Is E-Control Rx necessary during the first four weeks?

Saw this elsewhere:

FIRST 4 WEEKS:
Super-DMZ Rx Rx - 2 caps daily (1 cap AM / 1 cap PM)
E-Control Rx - 3 caps daily
Anabolic-Matrix Rx - 2 caps daily with food
Advanced Cycle Support Rx - 2-4 caps daily

LAST 4 WEEKS:
E-Control Rx - 3 caps daily
Anabolic-Matrix Rx - 2 caps daily with food
Advanced Cycle Support Rx - 2-4 caps daily

**The Neck** · 06-20-2011, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by Curt James

Is E-Control Rx necessary during the first four weeks?

Saw this elsewhere:

Using it the first 4wks is just playing it really safe. I don't use it personally until the end.

**Curt James** · 06-20-2011, 01:38 PM

^^^^

Thanks for the quick reply. Much appreciated!

**BigPoppa** · 07-11-2011, 01:58 AM

Originally Posted by The Neck

Cycles ideas starting at Beginner, all the way through Advanced.

6wk Cycle

1-Andro Rx > Weeks 1-4 (6caps e/d)
Anabolic Matrix Rx > Weeks 3-6 (2caps e/d)
E-Control Rx > Weeks 3-6 (2caps e/d)
Advanced Cycle Support Weeks > 1-8 (2caps e/d)
______________________________ __________

6wk Cycle

Super-DMZ Rx > Weeks 1-4 (20mg e/d)
Anabolic Marix Rx > Weeks 3-6 (2caps e/d)
E-Control Rx > Weeks 3-6 (2caps e/d)
Advanced Cycle Support Weeks > 1-8 (2caps e/d)
______________________________ ____________

6wk Cycle

Super-DMZ Rx > Weeks 1-4 (20mg e/d)
1-Andro Rx > Weeks 1-6 (6caps e/d)
E-Contol Rx > Weeks 3-6 (2caps e/d)
Advanced Cycle Support Weeks > 1-8 (3caps e/d)
______________________________ ____________

6wk Cycle

Super-DMZ Rx > Weeks 1-4 (30mg e/d)
Anabolic Matrix Rx > Weeks 3-6 (3caps e/d)
E-Contol Rx > Weeks 3-6 (2caps e/d)
Advanced Cycle Support Weeks > 1-8 (3caps e/d)
______________________________ ____________

6wk Cycle

Super-DMZ Rx > Weeks 1-4 (30mg e/d)
1-Andro Rx > Weeks 3-6 (6caps e/d)
Anabolic Matrix Rx > Weeks 3-6 (3caps e/d)
E-Contol Rx > Weeks 3-6 (2caps e/d)
Advanced Cycle Support Weeks > 1-8 (3caps e/d)
______________________________ ____________

6wk Cycle

Metha-Drol Extreme > Weeks 1-4 (20mg e/d)
Anabolic Matrix Rx > Weeks 3-6 (3caps e/d)
E-Contol Rx > Weeks 3-6 (2caps e/d)
Advanced Cycle Support Weeks > 1-8 (3caps e/d)
______________________________ ____________

6wk Cycle

Metha-Drol Extreme > Weeks 1-4 (20mg e/d)
1-Andro Rx > Weeks 3-6 (6caps e/d)
Anabolic Matrix Rx > Weeks 3-6 (3caps e/d)
E-Contol Rx > Weeks 3-6 (2caps e/d)
Advanced Cycle Support Weeks > 1-8 (4caps e/d)
______________________________ ____________

6wk Cycle

Metha-Drol Extreme > Weeks 1-4 (30mg e/d)
1-Andro Rx > Weeks 3-6 (6caps e/d)
Anabolic Matrix Rx > Weeks 3-6 (3caps e/d)
E-Contol Rx > Weeks 3-6 (2caps e/d)
Advanced Cycle Support Weeks > 1-8 (4caps e/d)
______________________________ ____________

Could you post the quantities or "what is needed" of each bottle it would take to support each of these stacks? There is something similar posted on the website but not for these specific stacks you posted here. Sory if its a hassle but I am a Marine and not good at math LOL!

For example:
Metha-Drol Extreme > Weeks 1-4 (20mg e/d) (2 btl)
1-Andro Rx > Weeks 3-6 (6caps e/d) (3btl)
Anabolic Matrix Rx > Weeks 3-6 (3caps e/d) (2 btl)
E-Contol Rx > Weeks 3-6 (2caps e/d) (2btl)
Advanced Cycle Support Weeks > 1-8 (4caps e/d) (2 btl)

**The Neck** · 07-11-2011, 08:18 AM

No problem, I'll get back to you here shortly

**The Neck** · 07-12-2011, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by BigPoppa

Could you post the quantities or "what is needed" of each bottle it would take to support each of these stacks? There is something similar posted on the website but not for these specific stacks you posted here. Sory if its a hassle but I am a Marine and not good at math LOL!

For example:
Metha-Drol Extreme > Weeks 1-4 (20mg e/d) (2 btl)
1-Andro Rx > Weeks 3-6 (6caps e/d) (3btl)
Anabolic Matrix Rx > Weeks 3-6 (3caps e/d) (2 btl)
E-Contol Rx > Weeks 3-6 (2caps e/d) (2btl)
Advanced Cycle Support Weeks > 1-8 (4caps e/d) (2 btl)

Metha-Drol = 1 btl
1-Andro = 3 btl
Anabolic Matrix = 2 btl
E-Control = 2 btl
Advanced Cycle Support = 2 btl

**BigPoppa** · 07-20-2011, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by The Neck

Metha-Drol = 1 btl
1-Andro = 3 btl
Anabolic Matrix = 2 btl
E-Control = 2 btl
Advanced Cycle Support = 2 btl

Thanks brother!

**The Neck** · 07-21-2011, 03:51 PM

Anytime!!^^

**rza1734** · 10-04-2011, 11:02 PM

What kind of gain's have people made from these stack's. 5-7 pounds or more

**Curt James** · 10-04-2011, 11:29 PM

^^^^ Ten pounds in four weeks from the beta formula of Super-DMZ Rx. Matched that amount on my second cycle of the current formula. Strength gains were crazy.

**rza1734** · 10-05-2011, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by Curt James

^^^^ Ten pounds in four weeks from the beta formula of Super-DMZ Rx. Matched that amount on my second cycle of the current formula. Strength gains were crazy.

Did you take anything besides Super DMZ, how long did you wait to start your second cycle?
What did you do for post cycle ? Also can you peptides while using Super DMZ ?

**Curt James** · 10-08-2011, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by rza1734

Did you take anything besides Super DMZ, how long did you wait to start your second cycle?

Besides Super-DMZ Rx, supplemented with Advanced Cycle Support, additional milk thistle, and the U.S. version of Liv.52.

Here's info from my first cycle. I'm a Joe Below Average at best.

Just completed four weeks of IronMagLabs Super-DMZ Rx. You will love this product!

I'll be using LG Sciences Formadrol Extreme shortly. Formadrol was on the list of products to use as a follow-up supplement.

Weight and measurements upon beginning using the IronMagLabs supplement:

9/13/2010

183.8 lbs.
Neck 14.25
R. Arm 12.5/14
L. Arm same
Shoulders 48
Chest 40.5/45
Waist 35
Hips 39
Thigh 23
Calf 15
Forearm 11.5
Ankle 9.25
Wrist 6.5

Got a fricking cold during the third week, though. Bitter-making.

But I definitely love this supplement and am looking forward to finishing the bottle at some point in the future.

Taken after three weeks using Super-DMX:

Note the Dorian Yates black socks action!

10/2/2010

193.9 lbs.
Neck 14 7/8" Son of a... couldn't make it to 15?

R. Arm 12 7/8" relaxed/hanging at side 14 5/8" flexed
L. Arm 13" relaxed 14 5/8" flexed

My left arm was 15" flexed and pumped after my most recent arm workout and with my fist nearly touching my freaking shoulder to squeeeeze out the extra hair to reach that measurement. lol

Shoulders 49
Chest 41.25/45.75
Waist 35.25
Hips 39.5
Thigh 24
Calf 15.5
Forearm 12
Ankle 9.25
Wrist 6.5

Started my second cycle almost nine months later:

Started another cycle of Super-DMZ Rx on Monday. Taking 20mg e/d. Ten first thing and then 10mg pre-workout.

Monday, June 20, 2011

191.2 lbs.

Ended the cycle just four weeks later.

Monday, July 18, 2011

205 lbs.

I'll never be a powerhouse, but IronMagLabs Super-DMZ Rx really gives me a boost for size and strength.

**Curt James** · 10-08-2011, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by rza1734

What did you do for post cycle ? Also can you peptides while using Super DMZ ?

During my second cycle, I also used Anabolic-Matrix Rx (2 caps daily with food).

For PCT it was 6-Bromo (3 caps daily), Anabolic-Matrix Rx (2 caps daily with food), and Advanced Cycle Support Rx (2 caps daily).

CEM's Liquid Clomi was highly recommended and I'll state that they offer their PCT product payable by Visa/MC and shipped USPS to your front door. Would strongly recommend you take a look at that product and -- if it's legal in your country -- incorporate it into your supplementation.

Know very little about peptides, but will look into that for you.

**Curt James** · 10-22-2011, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by rza1734

Did you take anything besides Super DMZ, how long did you wait to start your second cycle?
What did you do for post cycle ? Also can you peptides while using Super DMZ ?

Sorry for the delayed response. Was told peptides are fine.

**The Neck** · 10-24-2011, 07:49 AM

Lookin great Curt!!

**bigmedic28** · 11-05-2011, 10:36 PM

Just got the super DMZ stack in today. DMZ, Ultra Male, Anabolic Matrix, ACS, and 6-bromo. I know run the DMZ wks1-4, ACS wk1-8, My question is do you run the ultra male, anabolic and 6 bromo weeks 1-8 or hold ultra and anabolic matrix til week 5? ANy input will be appreciated. Thanks.

**Curt James** · 11-05-2011, 10:48 PM

I took Anabolic-Matrix Rx all eight weeks. 6-Bromo was weeks 5-8.

Haven't used Ultra Male Rx, but have seen it recommended for all eight weeks.

Super-DMZ Rx is an awesome product. Enjoy!

**Curt James** · 11-05-2011, 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by The Neck

Lookin great Curt!!

Thanks for the good word.

**bigmedic28** · 11-09-2011, 12:13 AM

Thanks Curt. I started my DMZ stack 2 days ago. Im doing the dmz, ultra male, anabolic rx, and ACS. Im holding the 6bromo til the end. Im new to the PH arena but is the 6 bromo my PCT or should I seek other for weeks 5-8. I plan on running the ultra male, anabolic rx, ACS, and 6 bromo for weeks 5-8. Any thoughts or suggs??

**The Neck** · 11-09-2011, 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by bigmedic28

Thanks Curt. I started my DMZ stack 2 days ago. Im doing the dmz, ultra male, anabolic rx, and ACS. Im holding the 6bromo til the end. Im new to the PH arena but is the 6 bromo my PCT or should I seek other for weeks 5-8. I plan on running the ultra male, anabolic rx, ACS, and 6 bromo for weeks 5-8. Any thoughts or suggs??

The 6-Bromo will suffice but wouldn't be against adding a SERM.

**JAM** · 11-09-2011, 04:49 PM

Guess I should have asked this before but I've just started using Metha-Drol Extreme (2 caps/day) and Ultra-Male Rx (2 caps/day) together for about a week. I plan on doing this for about 5-6 weeks.
Will these two products work together well and is this a good dosage? Any suggestions?

**NYJetsFan80** · 11-09-2011, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by Curt James

Besides Super-DMZ Rx, supplemented with Advanced Cycle Support, additional milk thistle, and the U.S. version of Liv.52.

Here's info from my first cycle. I'm a Joe Below Average at best.

Started my second cycle almost nine months later:

Ended the cycle just four weeks later.

I'll never be a powerhouse, but IronMagLabs Super-DMZ Rx really gives me a boost for size and strength.

Nice work Curt 540 is awesome brotha keep killin that shit!

I plan on starting a cycle of Metha Drol Extreme stacked witrh Haladrol Extreme 3 caps of MDE and 2 caps of HE ED along with a gram of Test Cyp divided into 3 pins a week will let you guys know what results I got but I won't start until mid December.First I got to go down another 20 pounds on this keto diet then when I start my cycle its carbs galore and bulking but slowly so I don't get fat anymore lost 100 pounds so far WOOHOOO LOL!

**bigmedic28** · 11-09-2011, 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by The Neck

The 6-Bromo will suffice but wouldn't be against adding a SERM.

Which SERM would you recommend? BTW, Super DMZ hits hard and quick! DAMN!! LOvin it already!!

**GarlicChicken** · 11-09-2011, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by bigmedic28

Which SERM would you recommend? BTW, Super DMZ hits hard and quick! DAMN!! LOvin it already!!

They do hit hard. I used them pre-wo a month or so ago to change up orals...make my veins real weak though. I get tons of bruises on it, but man it works. Serm-clomid

**bigmedic28** · 11-09-2011, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by GarlicChicken

They do hit hard. I used them pre-wo a month or so ago to change up orals...make my veins real weak though. I get tons of bruises on it, but man it works. Serm-clomid

THanks bro!! Should I take the clomid along with the DMZ or wait til week 5 and stack with the 6bromo?

**GarlicChicken** · 11-09-2011, 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by bigmedic28

THanks bro!! Should I take the clomid along with the DMZ or wait til week 5 and stack with the 6bromo?

Wait until you come off, and start the clomid the day after you quit the dmz. Dmz/superdrol doesn't convert to estrogen, its really dry.

**The Neck** · 11-10-2011, 07:52 AM

Originally Posted by JAM

Guess I should have asked this before but I've just started using Metha-Drol Extreme (2 caps/day) and Ultra-Male Rx (2 caps/day) together for about a week. I plan on doing this for about 5-6 weeks.
Will these two products work together well and is this a good dosage? Any suggestions?

2caps e/d of each is solid. I would stop the Metha-drol at 4wks & run the Ultra Male to 6wks.

Originally Posted by bigmedic28

Which SERM would you recommend? BTW, Super DMZ hits hard and quick! DAMN!! LOvin it already!!

Yes it does, clomid is my preference.

Originally Posted by GarlicChicken

Wait until you come off, and start the clomid the day after you quit the dmz. Dmz/superdrol doesn't convert to estrogen, its really dry.

This^^^

**bigmedic28** · 11-10-2011, 10:32 PM

Thanks for the replies guys!! Day five approaching and can tell already! Reppin IronMagLabs hard for you guys. Have another guy already on the DMZ stack for you and getting results quick and have another fixing to place an order too(your Welcome, LOL). Continue the great work!! Will keep you posted!! Road to the Midwest!!... Stay Tuned...

**Reaper1209** · 01-29-2012, 09:10 AM

Hi, I am a beginner at PH cycles. I was going to start a Sustanon 250/Winstrol cycle but decided to try a PH cycle first. After reading and researching a lot I've decided to try this cycle. Its a modified version of one from the top using the stack sold on ironmaglabs.com (they don't have 1-andro anymore). The doses are kinda funky but it makes the bottle pill counts work for 6 wks.

Metha-drol Extreme weeks 1-4 (2 pills e/d (1 morning/1 evening))
Ultra Male weeks 1-3 (1 pill e/d) weeks 4-6 (2 pills e/d)
Androbolic Matrix weeks 1-6 (3 pills e/d (2 morning/1 evening))
Advanced Cycle Support weeks 1-6 (3 pills e/d)

PCT
E Control weeks 3-6 (3 pills e/d)
Clomid weeks 5-6 (1 50mg pill e/d)

Nolvadex 20mg on standby in case of gyno (I can't get Arimidex where I'm at or I would use that)

I'm 24, 195lbs, 74in, been lifting moderately for about a year. Does this cycle sound ok or does it need adjusted?

**joe d** · 01-29-2012, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by Reaper1209

Hi, I am a beginner at PH cycles. I was going to start a Sustanon 250/Winstrol cycle but decided to try a PH cycle first. After reading and researching a lot I've decided to try this cycle. Its a modified version of one from the top using the stack sold on ironmaglabs.com (they don't have 1-andro anymore). The doses are kinda funky but it makes the bottle pill counts work for 6 wks.

Metha-drol Extreme weeks 1-4 (2 pills e/d (1 morning/1 evening))
Ultra Male weeks 1-3 (1 pill e/d) weeks 4-6 (2 pills e/d)
Androbolic Matrix weeks 1-6 (3 pills e/d (2 morning/1 evening))
Advanced Cycle Support weeks 1-6 (3 pills e/d)

PCT
E Control weeks 3-6 (3 pills e/d)
Clomid weeks 5-6 (1 50mg pill e/d)

Nolvadex 20mg on standby in case of gyno (I can't get Arimidex where I'm at or I would use that)

I'm 24, 195lbs, 74in, been lifting moderately for about a year. Does this cycle sound ok or does it need adjusted?

pct clomid 100/50/50 your plan is weak.

**GarlicChicken** · 01-29-2012, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by joe d

pct clomid 100/50/50 your plan is weak.

^Both of these. Put the ultra male stuff after the cycle so you feel better, and switch your clomid to this. You could get the nolva to have on hand, but you probably won't need it. The guys that talk about delayed onset gyno (like I had) is because they used OTC products for pct. SD doesn't aromatize either.

**s2h** · 01-30-2012, 05:07 AM

Originally Posted by Reaper1209

Hi, I am a beginner at PH cycles. I was going to start a Sustanon 250/Winstrol cycle but decided to try a PH cycle first. After reading and researching a lot I've decided to try this cycle. Its a modified version of one from the top using the stack sold on ironmaglabs.com (they don't have 1-andro anymore). The doses are kinda funky but it makes the bottle pill counts work for 6 wks.

Metha-drol Extreme weeks 1-4 (2 pills e/d (1 morning/1 evening))
Ultra Male weeks 1-3 (1 pill e/d) weeks 4-6 (2 pills e/d)
Androbolic Matrix weeks 1-6 (3 pills e/d (2 morning/1 evening))
Advanced Cycle Support weeks 1-6 (3 pills e/d)

PCT
E Control weeks 3-6 (3 pills e/d)
Clomid weeks 5-6 (1 50mg pill e/d)

Nolvadex 20mg on standby in case of gyno (I can't get Arimidex where I'm at or I would use that)

I'm 24, 195lbs, 74in, been lifting moderately for about a year. Does this cycle sound ok or does it need adjusted?

is tbis your first cycle of any type of ped?

**Reaper1209** · 01-30-2012, 11:22 AM

Thank you. Is that 100mg the first day and 50mg for the following days? Or is it 100mg e/d for first week and 50mg e/d for week 2 and 3?

If the cycle is weak, what do you suggest I change? Yes this is my first cycle of anything more than just OTC supplements from GNC.

**joe d** · 01-30-2012, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by Reaper1209

Thank you. Is that 100mg the first day and 50mg for the following days? Or is it 100mg e/d for first week and 50mg e/d for week 2 and 3?

If the cycle is weak, what do you suggest I change? Yes this is my first cycle of anything more than just OTC supplements from GNC.

the pct was what i was saying was weak. that suggestion was 100mg ed the first week then 50mg each week after. dont be fooled recovery from otc's is rough and ptc pct aids are pretty weak on the recovery part. they help you feel good but you need the real pct drugs to recover. many people have fallen victim to the all otc methods for pct and have screwed themselves up.

im not real good with the otc cycles so i didnt comment there. i will say if your healthy id go for the dmz. thats your best otc gainer.

**hulk7510** · 01-31-2012, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by joe d

the pct was what i was saying was weak. that suggestion was 100mg ed the first week then 50mg each week after. dont be fooled recovery from otc's is rough and ptc pct aids are pretty weak on the recovery part. they help you feel good but you need the real pct drugs to recover. many people have fallen victim to the all otc methods for pct and have screwed themselves up.

im not real good with the otc cycles so i didnt comment there. i will say if your healthy id go for the dmz. thats your best otc gainer.

you are correct good sir!my first cycle with prohormones was dmz,i andro and anabolic matrix.adcs and milk thistle.for pct i relyed on e-control and matrix.big fucking mistake!took me months to bounce back!i highly reccomend an ai and a proper pct.NOT otc!the real shit!i did gain some good strength and lean mass but at what cost?

**Reaper1209** · 01-31-2012, 12:22 PM

Why do DMZ first? I was under the impression that Metha-Drol had DMZ and other things in it and thus was stronger. Is that incorrect? And since I can't get Arimidex and my current PCT is weak, which ones do you suggest?

Please forgive my ignorance, I just don't want to screw my body up on my first ever cycle.

**hulk7510** · 01-31-2012, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by Reaper1209

Why do DMZ first? I was under the impression that Metha-Drol had DMZ and other things in it and thus was stronger. Is that incorrect? And since I can't get Arimidex and my current PCT is weak, which ones do you suggest?

Please forgive my ignorance, I just don't want to screw my body up on my first ever cycle.

have an ai and chlomid on had first.if not don't bother .not worth the hell you'll go through!