Igf-1 des

[Dre23]

This is some good shit y'all!

But, anyways, I'm glad to hear about this 'new' DES shit.

S2h, I know you said you take 3scoops of Torrent, but how many carbs does that come out to? And how many in your PWO meal an hr later? And you said that you still felt hypo signs later on in the day?

[Dre23]

Everything with DES right now is trial and error. I havent seen you open up and explain how to use it nor would it sound any more diligent than this guy.A trouble maker? Hardly. Are you really sitting here calling me names repeatedly?
No one said you should give two shits who I rep...but you should realize you aren't nearly as well-versed as you think on DES, otherwise youd lay it out for us. Like I said, people are being their own guinea pigs with this stuff.

And not tryna start shit with you NPC, but since even you said that peeps are being their own guinea pigs, how do you know which application is better (AA or BW)?

[NPCKnight]

AA is recommended by the companies. But that is not to say it wont work with BW. Some people have odd reactions to AA.

[Dre23]

AA is recommended by the companies. But that is not to say it wont work with BW. Some people have odd reactions to AA.

Ok. Thanks.

[The Big Sexy]

what does that prove dumbass.."i think it best to pin des"..he fucking thinks..no he doesnt think..just like you...and i am a mod not a fl..so heres the deal..you a trouble maker...and your a know it all..and you dont like it...look asshat..ive seen you argue your pissy little points on other threads..and i dont give two shits who you rep...take your "i'm guessing qoute" and hit the door...

[NPCKnight]

I personally like the idea of 40mcg split bilaterally pre workout....or even post workout PERHAPS.

[The Big Sexy]

oh lord what did I miss in here

[s2h]

This is some good shit y'all!

But, anyways, I'm glad to hear about this 'new' DES shit.

S2h, I know you said you take 3scoops of Torrent, but how many carbs does that come out to? And how many in your PWO meal an hr later? And you said that you still felt hypo signs later on in the day?

YEP..3 scoops of torrent is 52g of carbs and 20g of protien...pwo meal will vary..but norm is 10oz beef/chicken and either 6oz red potatoes or brown rice..maybe a sweet tater too...ya i got hypo a bit...say i trained at noon..so my des went in at 1...around 6-7 that nite i felt hypo after my meal..i dont usaully eat carbs with my 2nd to last meal..and my bedtime shake is 2 scoops of matrix and some natty pb or cc cheese..i also felt a little "weak" in the am..these are things that never happened too me on lr3...all other supps are the same...so the des is the only thing thats different...fyi..when i went with carbs in all my meals..no probs...

[s2h]

i care who you rep...you are so big and sexy....

[Dre23]

TBS,

Those first two women you posted are pretty hot, although the third one doing the Front Double Bi needs to lower her androgenic compounds.

[The Big Sexy]

TBS,

Those first two women you posted are pretty hot, although the third one doing the Front Double Bi needs to lower her androgenic compounds.

Eeerrr... I'll, um... be sure to tell her... err um... next time I umm see her... yeah!@

[Dre23]

Eeerrr... I'll, um... be sure to tell her... err um... next time I umm see her... yeah!@

LOL, can't really hate you for too long! Just too dang adorable!

[adpolice]

No thank you. I do not believe in spreading mis information...especially you as a forum leader. So lets get to the bottom of this and provide info for people instead of try to pass over things that are wrong.


(from ProM today)
Originally Posted by disgraziato
Now that thats settled....These peptides should be stored in solutions at appropriate PH levels; that is why IGF peptides are usually reconned w/ AA. Now, the PH of AA is a little too acidic to be pinning IM, it will irritate tissue at the very least, if not injure it. The idea behind drawing in BA after pulling IGF is to minimize this effect and raise the PH a bit just prior to pinning. Some do recon w/ straight BA, this will increase degradation rate, yes, but, for example if using IGF kits where each vial is 100mcg, then its fine; You'll be using that vial within a day or two and degradation isn't an issue then.
I think it best to pin Des about an hour PWO. Pwo is when the igf receptors in the muscle tissue trained will be primed and receptive. Waiting an hour will allow endo MGF to begin differentiation(the igf will shut this down). Then pinning your Des hoping it will find the receptors you want it to find and stimulate proliferation; Des, has zero binding affinity to all IGFBB, but is shorter lived than Lr3(a strong positive in my book).

Mis information?Like the humapro science...?

[The Big Sexy]

Mis information?Like the humapro science...?

What is mis information about Humapro? Everything said about that is true... people are having amazing results.

[eatliftsleep]

Mis information?Like the humapro science...?

I had to make an account because of all the stupidity in this thread. DES is a SHORTER FUCKING ACTING IGF. holy shit. I know this thread is old but fucking delete this mis information bullshit.

Whoever told you des is longer acting then lr3 is a fucking moron.