Figure Stack?

[DameDash]

Best of luck w/ upcoming shows!

Mega thanks again, Sassy!

[lucian]

I would think this is more a function of bulk vs cut. If someone is running an off-season bulker cycle, it is more likely to have an aromatizing compound in it and they are more likely to be eating to build. Some people take the "off season" thing a little too far and just get sloppy. But it can be as simple as it isn't "on season" and they want a break from the strict dieting and just let it all go. Don't think this necessarily has anything specifically to do w/ "using test and decca" off season for every competitor. It might be a contributor but IMO its more the nature of being the opposite of "on season" and also running protocols (diets with or without AAS) off season, not running any cutters or estrogen blockers since you'd want more to have water in your system than not to build. And maybe they completed a show and rebounded like a bitch and are now hauling around the results. Too broad an observation to simply blame on steroids.[/quote]


What i ,meant about the offseaon comment was, do these women not even resemble a figure competitor in the offseason because they really dont know how to diet and train and just rely on the drugs to get in shape?

I mean if you really like to train and know how to diet, you should be about 10-12 lb from contest in the offseason. Some of these women look like bricks! no taper, no athletic look, like they don't even train. then boom 10 weeks shredded.

Then you see some women who look great all year and dont look unhealthy and take 20 weeks to diet into a show. Its looking like the people who use the drugs, no matter how hard they THINK they are training and infact leaning on the drugs like a crutch.

Ive been doing this for 20 years now, see and used just about everything, and its just sad the direction things have gone.

[Ibarramedia]

I would agree that its not necessary, but then if you're going to say who should & shouldn't be running what, I'm sure a good 40% of guys starting a cycle have no business running it either.

But to that end, 'splain me why a Bikini competitor would even be AWARE of any of the chemistry? But they use it too. People use this stuff because it exists. Has very little to do w/ what they "should" or "shouldn't" do. I would argue that NO ONE should get on stage until they've had at least a solid year of real training. But no one bothers w/ that these days because its all about how fast and how many times you can get on stage and "OMG I NEED TO GAIN 10 lb of LEAN MASS BY MY NEXT SHOW --- THE JUDGES SAID I NEED TO DO THIS!!!!" Uh... talk to me after you've spent a couple years in the gym and have half a clue about dieting consistently for more than 2 weeks.

So yea, I totally agree, but that doesn't get anyone closer to getting more information to make informed decisions about this. I would venture the greatest contributor to steroid "abuse" by women who have no business running cycles for the goals intended, is well-meaning guy friends. But all that aside, there's precious little information available for women to become informed so IMO at least ask the questions and feel comfortable talking about it - in the open or in a PM, instead of just being told "You shouldn't do that" while guys are juicing to the gills all day long.

Also to your point - there is really NO NEED AT ALL for anything beyond anavar for a figure competition. If you feel you need more than that, you probably really need a year off to build some mass and get to know your body a little better.

re: Promuscle - I may have had a login from like 2002 or something but I don't recall going to that website any time in the near to distant past.

Good post.