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04-05-2011, 10:50 PM #1
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Figure Advice needed =)
Let me first off say. Ive put my time in the gym naturally for years!
Last year was my first time i supplemented.
I did a 8 week cycle of Oral (5mg) Winstrol and a 12 week cycle of (10mg) Anavar, not at the same time.
I was pretty strong before Ive ever tried anything. I think it was due to working out and riding dirt bikes for years, I think had a good base to work with, in my opinion.. Im 25 yrs old now and i committed myself to doing a show this summer. I have great genetics, symmetry and structure for this sport, I believe. I don't lack or have any weak areas.
Right now im 14 weeks out, dieting, switched my training added cardio and hired a coach. Today I was 131.4. My comp weight will be around 120, but we will just play it by how I look, i dont like to rely on numbers so much.
Im pretty conservative when it comes to the steroid use..Ive been natural for almost a year now. I did take about 3 months off from heavy lifting mid august due to a lumbar strain/ sciatica. I did lift lighter weights, high rep to keep the blood flowing in those muscles. last thing i wanted to do is to reinjure myself. The only 2 things that suffered where my shoulder db presses, went down 3 lbs, and my squats 20 lbs. =-/ but they have been creeping back up!
Soon ill be supplementing again to help keep my muscle, while im dieting and not trying to lift as much weight as possible like i have been.
I have Oral Winstrol 10mg tabs, Oral Anavar 10mg Tabs, & Liquid Clen.
And debating getting Injectable Winstrol.
At the momment, im just taking an over the counter fat burner before my cardio.
My past experiences..Winstrol i loved how it made me feel! lol
BUT i stopped my cycle early due to side effects. I didnt mind MOST of the side effects, like extra hair growth im not hairy anyways so it wasnt out of control or anything, im use to casual break outs my entire life acne wasnt an issue for me..a pimple here and there i dont care.
Clitorial enlargement.. Was a little uncomfortable walking sometimes..
Breast Atrophy..Im 5'3 and a natural D almost DD cup so it was a little different being a C cup probably.
But the reason why i stopped, was because the voice cracking started to happen more often. That is something im not okay with at all.
Anavar, Awesome. Loved it.
Clenbuteral, Ive taken it here and there...jitters and cramps, i take taurine with it if i take it.
Now what are your thoughts on what a figure compeititor pre contest should be taking?
I think Diet, Training and Cardio always come first! Im a strong believer in that because ive trained naturally for soo long.. It aggrivates me seeing girls train for 3 months off the street, load up on juice and walk on stage. :-/
Theres one girl in my gym who competes in npc shows...
She was taking Winstrol,Anavar,Clenbuteral, T3 and Arimodex.
I think thats a little much? but ive never competed so who am i to say thats overboard? you know? is that normal?
I was thinking 12weeks out 10mg anavar (5mgAM,5mgPM).
or should i do 20mg?
Winstrol im saving for the last...6? 4 weeks?
Now this is where i have a question..
Should i pulse with injectable, 0.5 once a week?
or take 5mgs oral for the last 4 weeks?
Which is smarter to reduce the side effects?
Where is the best place to inject?
Butt? shoulder?
And how should i run Clen (liquid) IF i need it..
2 weeks on? 2 weeks off? and how much?
And is.. T3 and anti estrogens necessary??
Thank you everyone for reading and your help
If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
Im an open book.Last edited by figurewannabe; 04-05-2011 at 10:54 PM.
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04-06-2011, 01:27 AM #2
This is a pretty thoroughly thought out post and I hope you get some great advice from the gals here! They are super helpful and VERY knowledgeable. I'll be tuning into this one bc I'm not only curious on their response, but I'm also curious to understand why you were having all of those extreme sides with only one cycle of oral winny on 5mgs?? That seems rare to have those sides that fast from one cycle. BUT, I could be wrong so looking forward to what the girls have to say! =)
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04-06-2011, 01:52 AM #3
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Yea, Ive read some girls can tolerate it pretty well..
and some girls just cant...Ive read some girls split a 10mg tab in 4rths.. because of the side effects... Who knows maybe im sensitive with it.
Anavar i was perfect with..some enlargement but thats it...
I hope i get some advice also!!
Ive been checking back on this thread all night! haha.
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04-06-2011, 06:17 AM #4
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oral winstrol is much harder on the body from what i hear. IMO i would use your var at 20 mg a day, and see if you need winny the last 4 weeks.if you are looking good and think you will be good wo it. skip it. inj winny at 25mg eod is a good dose. id do your delts.
t3 isnt necessary. anti e ..it depends on where you hold your fat. most girls need it the last 6 weeks to get the butt tight.APS HI TECH PHARMACEUTICALS ATHLETE
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04-06-2011, 12:44 PM #5
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04-06-2011, 02:03 PM #6
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i have never done 2 on 2 off. i have run it straight. some will cycle w an eca. its up to you and some people have conflicting opinions.start w 20 and increase w your tolerance level.
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04-06-2011, 08:00 PM #7
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Thanks for the reply.
I have another question now about doing an ECA stack.
The over counter fat burner im taking is Nutrex's Lipo 6 Black hers Ultra concentrate Intelligent (long name eh!).
(Which makes you feel awesome)
Well, the 2 key ingredients are Synephrine and Caffeine, along with other minerals and yohimbine.
Now because Synephrine is similar to ephedrine..
[ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synephrine[/ame]
Ingrediants of Lipo 6 black - http://www.a1supplements.com/LIPO-6-...s-p-21040.html
What do you think about Adding Asprin with it, since it does not contain asprin? and whats the point of the asprin anyways??
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04-07-2011, 05:46 AM #8
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i always did ecy. asprin from what i read isnt necessary. if you find a good otc fat burner that works for you no reason you cant use it.
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04-07-2011, 10:38 AM #9
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Next question! (Sorry i have no friends that take anything to go off of, so this is why i ask so many questions)
Is it Safe to take ECY and Clen?
Because already the lipo 6 hypes me up like crazy in the morning, border line puking (because of the empty stomach cardio) but than im okay...Cardio im hyped up like crazy but i slow down a little because i get to the point where i feel maybe this is unsafe to be so cracked out in the morning? In the afternoon when i take it again, i get the cracked out feeling but not to the point of puking, because ive already put down 2 meals by the next gym session..
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04-08-2011, 05:56 AM #10
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to cycle not take together.
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04-08-2011, 10:26 AM #11
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Hi Tammy!
I was wondering why you would suggest 20mg of Anavar besides the 10mg?
Thank you!
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04-09-2011, 06:35 AM #13
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to help preserve your muscle when dieting.
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04-09-2011, 10:52 AM #14
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10 is fine. you can always bump it
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