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    Thanks for the advice.
    I was thinking the same time too.
    I would hate be maxed out and be like "what now? all i could do is take winni"
    Yes i think 10 than possibly bumping...

    Im not on var or winni right now...just the lipo 6.
    im 13 weeks out today.. and i feel like i shouldve started taking something by now? but my strength is going up at the momment..
    I make my order threw a website online because ive gotten bunk stuff off the street.. but their orders have been a lil late so i read on outlaw muscle. But it mostly the Febuary orders that are late, not the march ones...
    But still worries me... I made the order 3 weeks ago and it isnt considered late till the end of next week...
    I got spoiled with the first 2 orders ive made threw them, and gotten it within 9 business days!
    and even accidentally doubled my order it was like christmas!
    They did say they shipped it.. but who knows when they ACTUALLY ship it, you know.
    So......Everyday im waiting!!

    Right now all i have is Clen and maybe 5-10 10mg tabs (split in half)
    of winni, which would/could hold me over till i get Var, but i dont want to mess with winni if i really dont have too, and no clen at all right now.

    Ive taken a prohormone before almost 2 yrs ago (American Cellular labs, Ah-89) which a pro bodybuilder out here suggested me to take because he didnt want me messing with winstrol than.
    And it was AWESOME! barely any sides and similiar to winstrol.
    but thats banned now.... my fiance suggested maybe ordering a prohormone
    like RPN Havoc?.. he was taking it for awhile and got really cut..

    Any suggestions?
    Last edited by figurewannabe; 04-09-2011 at 02:08 PM.

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    Give it another week or so. U still have time.
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    you are 13 weeks out and you are figure for what they want now you really shouldn't need anything

    most bbers don't start supps til 12 weeks out

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    Okay!
    Thank you!

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    Tammy has given you great advice. Good luck with your future show!
    You guys with the huge sponsor ads in your signatures make reading the forums annoying.

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    Thank you!
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    ^^ What they said.

    To the "what is normal" for a figure competitor -
    - winstrol
    - var
    - t3 / clen
    - NOLVA - not arimidex

    Nolvadex is a selective estrogen receptor modulator (SERM) - it operates on ovarian estrogen. A typical final cutter stack is proviron + nolvadex (1/2 tab each, x 2/ day) for 4-8 weeks, but no more than that as proviron is very androgenic. This particular combination has been a classic cutter going into a show.

    I'm not a big fan of recommending arimidex or other aromatase inhibitors - because they are aromatase inhibitors and nothing in this list of AAS aromatizes. Adex and others can be very harsh in terms of drying you out - like in your joints. That, especially if you're already running winstrol, which also dries out your joints, IMO is just setting yourself up for a lifetime of tendonitis.

    Just throwing this out since we're talking about orals use for women - include the following in your supplement stack:
    - acidophilus - to help prevent yeast infections
    - liver support: LIV52 + milk thistle (Tyler's Liver Support even better but expensive)
    - for cholesterol & blood pressure: red yeast rice, flushing niacin, coQ10
    - joints: EFAs & MSM/Glucosamine
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    I started Clen.. and put the lipo 6 aside for now..
    It made me very irritable! weird..
    Im still waiting for my Var to come! :-/


    Thank you sassy for the advice!
    Much appreciated!

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    My supps are still not here yet.
    So to hold me over. I ordered a Prohormone.
    I ordered RPN Havoc, for now till i get my Var/Winni.
    I have been running 5mg winni every other day, with what i had left over.
    I only have one half left to take on Monday.

    Anyone take Havoc RPN before?
    Like i said my boyfriend took it before.
    hes 6'1 210 lbs, very very lean/veiny/abs... naturally eating junk.
    he took this and ate junk, and had striations everywhere possible, and veins threw his abdominal's.
    Im wondering what it could do to a girl?
    He took 3 a day (I think). I obviously wont be taking that much.

    I did read a post on here about prohormones and women, seemed like havoc wasn't harsh, on the side effects?
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    you cant source post...i edited your post above.
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    Oh! i had no idea, im sorry!

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    Quote Originally Posted by figurewannabe View Post
    My supps are still not here yet.
    So to hold me over. I ordered a Prohormone.
    I ordered RPN Havoc, for now till i get my Var/Winni.
    I have been running 5mg winni every other day, with what i had left over.
    I only have one half left to take on Monday.

    Anyone take Havoc RPN before?
    Like i said my boyfriend took it before.
    hes 6'1 210 lbs, very very lean/veiny/abs... naturally eating junk.
    he took this and ate junk, and had striations everywhere possible, and veins threw his abdominal's.
    Im wondering what it could do to a girl?
    He took 3 a day (I think). I obviously wont be taking that much.

    I did read a post on here about prohormones and women, seemed like havoc wasn't harsh, on the side effects?
    I ran 30 days on Primaforce Havoc. I started a thread asking about it, and later updated with my experiences here ==>[ame="http://forums.rxmuscle.com/showthread.php?t=45928"]Epistane[/ame]
    I'm happy to answer any questions about my experience. I intend to go on again in the near future.

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    Thanks for the help!

    I thought a read somewhere primaforce and rpns havoc is totally different??
    I should get mine in the mail today, its out on the truck for delivery .

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    My Stuff came today! But so did my Havoc, i KNEW this was gonna happen!!!
    I knew both would come in the same day..geez.
    So now i have Oral Winni, Var and Havoc.

    Ill start Var tomorrow =) (5 in the am and 5 in the pm)

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    Quote Originally Posted by figurewannabe View Post
    Goodmorning!
    Do you not think 10mg will be enough to hold them?
    10mg is more than enough to hold onto your muscle. I'm not a female, and I get by with 20mg while dieting and I weigh 250. Females especially should dose on the absolute low end. Use just enough to get results. I've known many females that have used winstrol and they all complain of voice changes. The sad thing is, that never goes away. I would stay away from it if at all possible.

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