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    Quote Originally Posted by lilhawk1 View Post
    10mg is more than enough to hold onto your muscle. I'm not a female, and I get by with 20mg while dieting and I weigh 250. Females especially should dose on the absolute low end. Use just enough to get results. I've known many females that have used winstrol and they all complain of voice changes. The sad thing is, that never goes away. I would stay away from it if at all possible.
    My boyfriend also went on a rant, saying 20mg is way overboard, and 10mg should be perfect.
    Saying that i am taking 10 var now...
    I do have oral winstrol for later on if i decide to use it, 10mg tabs which id split to 5mg.
    Im looking to get injectable to use once a week.

    He also went on a rant saying there is no reason for any girl to take proviron.

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    proviron is great if you have estrogen issues and have issues getting lean in your butt and legs. start w the var, 1omg. inject win is a mother fucker as far as the ouch factor. just fyi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tammyp View Post
    proviron is great if you have estrogen issues and have issues getting lean in your butt and legs. start w the var, 1omg. inject win is a mother fucker as far as the ouch factor. just fyi.
    Thanks for the heads up! LoL.

    I was wondering what about Yohimbine.
    Ive been taking PrimaForce Yohimbine, 2 with my Clen before Am Cardio.
    Do i just stay at 2 or go up eventually?
    How long is it okay to take yohimbine effectively?
    Is there a a better brand or is Primaforce okay?


    Anyone know of any women taking RPN Havocs specifically?
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    Weights droppin, and strength going up. =)

    Bump bump about yohimbine??
    Last edited by figurewannabe; 05-09-2011 at 07:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by figurewannabe View Post
    Weights droppin, and strength going up. =)

    Bump bump about yohimbine??
    There are some clen mixes out there that include yohimbine, but I think I"d be careful w/ the amount of yohimbine you add because it can have a tendency to make you feel sick if you use too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by figurewannabe View Post
    Thanks for the heads up! LoL.

    I was wondering what about Yohimbine.
    Ive been taking PrimaForce Yohimbine, 2 with my Clen before Am Cardio.
    Do i just stay at 2 or go up eventually?
    How long is it okay to take yohimbine effectively?
    Is there a a better brand or is Primaforce okay?


    Anyone know of any women taking RPN Havocs specifically?
    take your clen in the am..and your yohimbine in the early afternoon...pwo if you can but not to late...not sure about primaforce..i like the ON brand...but it should be fine....

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    also are you taking in any caffiene during the day???

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    Quote Originally Posted by s2h View Post
    also are you taking in any caffiene during the day???
    This is what im doing right now.
    I take Clen (liquid, upping my dose weekly.) in the am with 2 Primaforce Yohimbine in the am, with a cup of coffee...before Cardio.
    Than later during my 2nd meal i take 5 mg of Var. (my meal is about 20 mins before 2nd round at the gym) (Maybe another cup of coffee if i need it)
    Later on my 5th meal about 8pm, i take the other half of 5mg Var.

    I don't take Clen on Sundays, Saturday evening i take a benadryl and sleep...
    and i start again on Monday.

    So far i never had any bad experiences with yohimbine, ive been pretty good with it..
    i did have my mom and my boyfriend try it, they both got very nauseous off one pill of it.

    Whats pwo?
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    Quote Originally Posted by figurewannabe View Post
    Whats pwo?
    PWO = post workout
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    Quote Originally Posted by figurewannabe View Post
    Thanks for the heads up! LoL.

    Anyone know of any women taking RPN Havocs specifically?
    wanna - do you have your PMs turned on? Can you PM me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by figurewannabe View Post
    this is what im doing right now.
    I take clen (liquid, upping my dose weekly.) in the am with 2 primaforce yohimbine in the am, with a cup of coffee...before cardio.
    Than later during my 2nd meal i take 5 mg of var. (my meal is about 20 mins before 2nd round at the gym) (maybe another cup of coffee if i need it)
    later on my 5th meal about 8pm, i take the other half of 5mg var.

    I don't take clen on sundays, saturday evening i take a benadryl and sleep...
    And i start again on monday.

    So far i never had any bad experiences with yohimbine, ive been pretty good with it..
    I did have my mom and my boyfriend try it, they both got very nauseous off one pill of it.

    Whats pwo?
    clen in the am..ok...yohimbine in the mid afternoon..ok..dump the coffee...to much stim wise going on...var is fine...

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    Quote Originally Posted by s2h View Post
    clen in the am..ok...yohimbine in the mid afternoon..ok..dump the coffee...to much stim wise going on...var is fine...
    What about coffee and Clen in the morning before cardio?
    and Yohimbine (2) in the afternoon with 5mg Var before workout/cardio?

    I love my vanilla coffee...it more of a taste for me than it doing much..

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    Quote Originally Posted by figurewannabe View Post
    What about coffee and Clen in the morning before cardio?
    and Yohimbine (2) in the afternoon with 5mg Var before workout/cardio?

    I love my vanilla coffee...it more of a taste for me than it doing much..
    am only if your hooked..lol..everything else looks fine...

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    Gotcha! thanks!

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    So last night i was reading a thread on RPN Havoc...

    So since im almost 8 weeks out, I thought id give it a trial run now! before i get any closer. So i dropped my Var to 5mg a day for now, while taking Rpn Havoc 10mg
    (1 pill) Just adding it in to help lean and see what it does, while im dieting i should be able to see results from it (Every other day 1 pill)
    If i notice no weird sides, nothing oddly new happening, than ill go back to 10 var and keep the havoc the same. I dont want to drop the Var yet because my fats dropping perfectly, and i want to keep my strength up as much as possible, but ideally id want to try havoc alone with nothing else.. so i know EXACTLY what is going on, but
    im pretty familiar with Var and my body, and what happens on it.
    It doesnt seem smart for me to drop var yet. Plus i know my sides with Var..

    I got havoc in case my supps didnt come in time, but everything came in one day..
    But at the same time...im holding out on Oral winstrol i really dont want to take it the last 4-6 weeks out... I dont trust street injectable steroids, kinda weirds me out...
    Some of the sides with Winstrol isnt worth it to walk on stage. im not a throphy hunter by any means or someone who needs to walk on stage to get attention..

    I like the sport of figure in general and the process... I'm actually having fun..

    I will be posting regularly about the Havoc since their isnt much info on it regarding women taking it.

    As of May 10th was my 1st pill.

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