View Poll Results: Which CJC do you prefer?

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  • CJC1295 N/DAC

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  • CJC1295 W/DAC

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  • CJC1293 MOD

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    Default CJC1295 N/DAC or CJC1293 MOD?

    I like 1295 W/DAC because it's a once a week administration and maybe because Im older it benefits me more. Seems like I cant get a grasp on what everyone prefers. I had the higher ups order 1295 no dac for the members here but isnt 1293 just as good?

    Help me out with some statistics. What do you prefer and why?

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    Gary, what time of the day do you administer cjc 1295 w DAC? morning, post-workout, or before bed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hydroweighed4.0%bf View Post
    Gary, what time of the day do you administer cjc 1295 w DAC? morning, post-workout, or before bed?
    I would guess morning since it has a super long half life time.

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    I have a few bottles ordered by accident instead of the no DAC and I'm considering trying the once a week administration method. Also, wondering if he is injecting 100 mcg or less?
    Last edited by hydroweighed4.0%bf; 06-10-2011 at 01:18 AM.

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    I do it in the morning once a week. Usually 500mcg's or more. It certainly works for me. Im surprised everyone is so favored to the shorter ones. Everyone is so scared of that HGH bleed and think the body responds better to the HGH spikes. Maybe it is better but honestly Im to lazy to do every day injects now. That's what 1295 was invented for. To get around every day administration.
    Quote Originally Posted by hydroweighed4.0%bf View Post
    I have a few bottles ordered by accident instead of the no DAC and I'm considering trying the once a week administration method. Also, wondering if he is injecting 100 mcg or less?

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    CJC-1295 W/O DAC (ie. Mod GRF 1-29 or tetra-substituted GRF 1-29) is the preferred GHRH due to its moderate half life (approx. 30 minutes) for use in GH pulsing. GH pulsing is more effective for fat burning/muscle building than GH bleed. CJC-1295 with DAC has the longest half life, and causes constant GH bleed, which is better for healing injuries. CJC-1293 (ie. GRF 1-29) is the shortest half life of the GHRHs, at no more than 5 minutes. This causes a GH pulse, but not as strong or long as Mod GRF 1-29.

    If one is looking for pulsing, Mod GRF is the best bet, and CJC-1293 is the second best. If you are looking for injury healing, CJC-1295 W/ DAC is the better option. Its all in what result you want to achieve!


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    Nice! thank you! good input!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by GarlicChicken View Post
    CJC-1295 W/O DAC (ie. Mod GRF 1-29 or tetra-substituted GRF 1-29) is the preferred GHRH due to its moderate half life (approx. 30 minutes) for use in GH pulsing. GH pulsing is more effective for fat burning/muscle building than GH bleed. CJC-1295 with DAC has the longest half life, and causes constant GH bleed, which is better for healing injuries. CJC-1293 (ie. GRF 1-29) is the shortest half life of the GHRHs, at no more than 5 minutes. This causes a GH pulse, but not as strong or long as Mod GRF 1-29.

    If one is looking for pulsing, Mod GRF is the best bet, and CJC-1293 is the second best. If you are looking for injury healing, CJC-1295 W/ DAC is the better option. Its all in what result you want to achieve!


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    You are absolutely correct sir. Before the 1293 was the 1288 which even with DAC it was a failure then they switched the 2nd and 3rd amino acid which gave it a better half life and they improved it with the DAC tail which was connected to the amino acids with lysine. Now they are 4 amino acids that are switched in the 1295 which gave it an incredible improvement in its half life but with the DAC the half life became too long and cause GH bleeding.

    Shorter GH spike is way better for fat loss! In fact is so much better to inject more times a day with lower dosage than 3 bigger dosages. In other words its better to do 6 50mcg shots of 1295 without DAC than 3 100mcg.

    IMHO just like 1288 the 1293 is a waste also. So it's up to 1295 with/without DAC. Now that comes to what you want to actually do...fat loss or joint healing.



    Quote Originally Posted by GarlicChicken View Post
    CJC-1295 W/O DAC (ie. Mod GRF 1-29 or tetra-substituted GRF 1-29) is the preferred GHRH due to its moderate half life (approx. 30 minutes) for use in GH pulsing. GH pulsing is more effective for fat burning/muscle building than GH bleed. CJC-1295 with DAC has the longest half life, and causes constant GH bleed, which is better for healing injuries. CJC-1293 (ie. GRF 1-29) is the shortest half life of the GHRHs, at no more than 5 minutes. This causes a GH pulse, but not as strong or long as Mod GRF 1-29.

    If one is looking for pulsing, Mod GRF is the best bet, and CJC-1293 is the second best. If you are looking for injury healing, CJC-1295 W/ DAC is the better option. Its all in what result you want to achieve!


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    Dang D is on a roll!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Dedication View Post
    You are absolutely correct sir. Before the 1293 was the 1288 which even with DAC it was a failure then they switched the 2nd and 3rd amino acid which gave it a better half life and they improved it with the DAC tail which was connected to the amino acids with lysine. Now they are 4 amino acids that are switched in the 1295 which gave it an incredible improvement in its half life but with the DAC the half life became too long and cause GH bleeding.

    Shorter GH spike is way better for fat loss! In fact is so much better to inject more times a day with lower dosage than 3 bigger dosages. In other words its better to do 6 50mcg shots of 1295 without DAC than 3 100mcg.

    IMHO just like 1288 the 1293 is a waste also. So it's up to 1295 with/without DAC. Now that comes to what you want to actually do...fat loss or joint healing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Dedication View Post
    You are absolutely correct sir. Before the 1293 was the 1288 which even with DAC it was a failure then they switched the 2nd and 3rd amino acid which gave it a better half life and they improved it with the DAC tail which was connected to the amino acids with lysine. Now they are 4 amino acids that are switched in the 1295 which gave it an incredible improvement in its half life but with the DAC the half life became too long and cause GH bleeding.

    Shorter GH spike is way better for fat loss! In fact is so much better to inject more times a day with lower dosage than 3 bigger dosages. In other words its better to do 6 50mcg shots of 1295 without DAC than 3 100mcg.

    IMHO just like 1288 the 1293 is a waste also. So it's up to 1295 with/without DAC. Now that comes to what you want to actually do...fat loss or joint healing.



    so u think cjc 1293 is a waste...have u truely experimented with both cjc1295 w/o dac and cjc 1293 and compared them...or are you just basing it off everthing u see on forums...i think not...if so you would have realized something...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwoleChamp View Post
    so u think cjc 1293 is a waste...have u truely experimented with both cjc1295 w/o dac and cjc 1293 and compared them...or are you just basing it off everthing u see on forums...i think not...if so you would have realized something...
    No I have not experimented with it...yet. But why go with the 1293 while the 1295 is the same price? Also Bob posted that graph that I have posted above to help me understand it when I was studying GHRH. Unless I have misunderstood the graph the 1293 only has one amino acid swap out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GarlicChicken View Post
    CJC-1295 W/O DAC (ie. Mod GRF 1-29 or tetra-substituted GRF 1-29) is the preferred GHRH due to its moderate half life (approx. 30 minutes) for use in GH pulsing. GH pulsing is more effective for fat burning/muscle building than GH bleed. CJC-1295 with DAC has the longest half life, and causes constant GH bleed, which is better for healing injuries. CJC-1293 (ie. GRF 1-29) is the shortest half life of the GHRHs, at no more than 5 minutes. This causes a GH pulse, but not as strong or long as Mod GRF 1-29.

    If one is looking for pulsing, Mod GRF is the best bet, and CJC-1293 is the second best. If you are looking for injury healing, CJC-1295 W/ DAC is the better option. Its all in what result you want to achieve!


    I agree 100% but what do i know

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    cmon Rx I need better feed back than this lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by GaryGranaas View Post
    cmon Rx I need better feed back than this lol
    Wow someone else is up late lol. Hope that helps

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    cjc1295 w/o dac is the best...GH spikes are better than a bleed, empirical evidence shows it. Better, faster results occur due to GH spikes...

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