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    Default Just a little bit on "research" and things you may say on here to protect yourself...

    Now, selling a product for non-human use may protect the seller of these peptides or other ancillaries (although I could see questions being brought up if they did proper verification - however, I'm guessing they have already looked into this).

    But I have been seeing a lot of people on the forums claiming to be "doing experiments with mice" or "it had this effect on my mice" - even a moderator saying "it turned my mice brown" or similar comments. This may absolve you from liability for using it for humans... but, just about every state has guidelines, permit requirements and licensing protocols for any sort of animal research. There are also federal guidelines for this you must follow.

    So, just some thought - if you are saying "yeah I tested it on my mice" in an effort to come off "clean" to people who may be reading this forum - you are basically admitting to something that is really far worse, with heavier fines and possible more criminal liability. Yes yes, I know - you really aren't experimenting on mice - but you are claiming to... and if you are worried about someone getting a warrant for saying you use IGF on yourself and not worried about it when you say you used it on mice... you should think 2x.

    I might suggest merely saying... In my experiments... without any specific mention to living animals - lab or otherwise. Or the old fall back - a good friend of mine had these results using some of this product, etc.



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    Good info Mr. Sexy. Think we get comfortable in here discussing things of this nature because of our false sense of ananimity.
    Just rename myself "The Experiment" and refer to myself in third person and I will be good to go!

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    definitely something to think about, good stuff One Man Gang
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    Very good point sir!

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    Good advice.

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    The research companies have a duty to market their product responsibly and not make fraudulent claims. Discuss without censor folks.

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    good post lou
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    Glad to see your putting that law degree to use somewhere.

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    That's why my testing involves only invertebrates, especially drosophila melanogaster, a fruit fly, and caenorhabditis elegans, a nematode. These animals offer scientists many advantages over vertebrates, including their short life cycle, simple anatomy and the ease with which large numbers of individuals may be studied. Invertebrates are often cost-effective, as thousands of flies or nematodes can be housed in a single room.

    With the exception of some cephalopods, invertebrate species are not protected under most animal research legislation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsp View Post
    That's why my testing involves only invertebrates, especially drosophila melanogaster, a fruit fly, and caenorhabditis elegans, a nematode. These animals offer scientists many advantages over vertebrates, including their short life cycle, simple anatomy and the ease with which large numbers of individuals may be studied. Invertebrates are often cost-effective, as thousands of flies or nematodes can be housed in a single room.

    With the exception of some cephalopods, invertebrate species are not protected under most animal research legislation.
    PP's Clen works very well on my drosophila melanogaster.

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    I realize this is an old thread but I have a question that no matter how hard I search I cannot get an actual STRAIGHT answer. Maybe it can't be answered without getting in trouble but I'll give it a go....TBS...maybe you can answer?
    I want to order a "research chemical". IS IT LEGAL?
    I know it's not for "human consumption" and that is where the legality lies but what should someone know before ordering. I can find all kinds of bro advice on what to take and how to take it but I just want a straight answer on the actual ordering.
    Sorry to sound like a newb but I've searched long enough without just asking which is what I should have done from the start
    Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pd View Post
    IS IT LEGAL?
    Yes
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    Thanks

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