Is jeff willet natty or not??

**toxic Avenger** · 07-03-2011, 08:48 PM

I guess most of you guys never really had a good friend that was a great bber and was natural.

**Dadup** · 07-03-2011, 08:53 PM

idk why its hard to believe guys like this arent natural, I agree with you guys, I think he is, some ppl just dont wanna put in the work so they say "oh well hes on steroids", theres THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of 150 lb guys on gear

**ritch** · 07-03-2011, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by ChristianDuque

I'm glad you agree, but I am asking you to remove that quote from your signature. I never said that you and what you're doing amounts to libel. I have saved a screenshot. (Fyi) Your use of the eplipses do not excuse your mischaracterization. I'd like to note that I emailed and asked you to remove it and you said you wouldn't. You're not too bright Ritch.

http://forums.rxmuscle.com/showthrea...t=56724&page=3

go to post 98 and tell me who's not so bright....

**MITM** · 07-03-2011, 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by ritch

http://forums.rxmuscle.com/showthrea...t=56724&page=3

go to post 98 and tell me who's not so bright....

It's a blatant mischaracterization on your part -- blatantly taken out of context to serve your own ends. But hey, you keep havin fun, and I'll put my knowledge to work. Have a wonderful time using my name and likeliness for your enjoyment. I'm the guy that shows his face, says where he's from and where he trains, and gives his name -- you give us your back and hide behind an alias.

You can't hide from a summons baby

Cya

**ritch** · 07-03-2011, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by ChristianDuque

It's a blatant mischaracterization on your part -- blatantly taken out of context to serve your own ends. But hey, you keep havin fun, and I'll put my knowledge to work. Have a wonderful time using my name and likeliness for enjoyment. Soon, I'll be the one laughin

I did nothing wrong and took that sentence as it was said, unitl a mod asks me to take it down, you can suck it.

**MITM** · 07-03-2011, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by ritch

I did nothing wrong and took that sentence as it was said, unitl a mod asks me to take it down, you can suck it.

No problem bro. Like I told you in private message, you can do whatever you want.

But just remember ... it's not the Mods' job to tell you what's right from wrong. You wanna have a party at someone else's expense, enjoy it. Put when it's time to pay the piper, don't look for anyone to pitch in.

I'm out, & Jeff is natty

**ritch** · 07-03-2011, 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by ChristianDuque

No problem bro. Like I told you in private message, you can do whatever you want.

But just remember ... it's not the Mods' job to tell you what's right from wrong. You wanna have a party at someone else's expense, enjoy it. Put when it's time to pay the piper, don't look for anyone to pitch in.

I'm out, & Jeff is natty

sniff, sniff it smell like shit in here, oh yeah Christian is talking...

**MITM** · 07-03-2011, 09:09 PM

Back to the thread topic. I, for one, understand the point made by guys like John Romano -- that no one's really natural anymore; however, I guess I just have a hard tiime believing ph's make that much of a difference.

Realistically though (and this for you guys with more of an rx understanding) if we go back in time to '99 or w/e.. and someone was taking andro, nor-andro, dhea, tribulus, I mean everything but the kitchen sink, how close would this be to taking AAS?

Also... many of the natty guys I've interviewed (mostly from OCB, NGA, NABBA) claim that just because Team U is tested doesn't mean it's natural. What do you guys think of Shiloe Steinmetz (NPC Mr. Ohio & Team U Heavyweight winner? I interviewed him : http://StrengthAddicts.com/ShiloeSteinmetz.html ) or Shawn Boisacq ( 2011 Emerald Cup, Heavyweight Winner http://strengthaddicts.com/Shawn_Boisacq.html )???

**Dadup** · 07-03-2011, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by HeavyDutyDadup

idk why its hard to believe guys like this arent natural, I agree with you guys, I think he is, some ppl just dont wanna put in the work so they say "oh well hes on steroids", theres THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of 150 lb guys on gear

meant to say ARE natural, my bad

**MITM** · 07-03-2011, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by HeavyDutyDadup

meant to say ARE natural, my bad

It's good you made the correction, but I think we all got the context of what you were saying. Jeff (and guys like Skip LaCour) are totally natural (as compared to the IFBB Pro's). The one I was a little iffy about was Michael Lockett -- I mean the guy was a FREAK

Originally Posted by ritch

sniff, sniff it smell like shit in here, oh yeah Christian is talking...

Dude... I'm sorry I got testy with you. I didn't like that you sorta misquoted me, but I did make the statement. I hope you accept my apology. I'm hungry and need to go eat.

**ritch** · 07-03-2011, 09:33 PM

Originally Posted by ChristianDuque

It's good you made the correction, but I think we all got the context of what you were saying. Jeff (and guys like Skip LaCour) are totally natural (as compared to the IFBB Pro's). The one I was a little iffy about was Michael Lockett -- I mean the guy was a FREAK

Dude... I'm sorry I got testy with you. I didn't like that you sorta misquoted me, but I did make the statement. I hope you accept my apology. I'm hungry and need to go eat.

It seems we agree on more than what we don't... I do not want to stir bullshit drama, so yeah, we're cool... I've said shit before while low carb, feeling grouchy so I understand the state of mind you were in...

time to go do that klaus thing and get some test in me, lol...

**x100696** · 07-03-2011, 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by zmcdole

Jeff admitted to taking prohormones fellas. Therefore HE'S NOT NATURAL.

Disagree

**Dee** · 07-03-2011, 10:58 PM

and by pro-hormones......he means D-bol.

j/k...dont know anything about this guy, just felt like poking fun......his physique doesnt strike me as something impossible to obtain naturally tho....

**data** · 07-03-2011, 11:33 PM

Take 3 years and workout hard, never miss a workout, a meal, or a nap. Hire a professional photographer to take 100s of pics of you by yourself and anyone can look great. But a pic standing beside your average gym buff with a tshirt on and you'll look slightly above average.

**Jake DeMichele** · 07-04-2011, 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by data

Take 3 years and workout hard, never miss a workout, a meal, or a nap. Hire a professional photographer to take 100s of pics of you by yourself and anyone can look great. But a pic standing beside your average gym buff with a tshirt on and you'll look slightly above average.

Your smoking crack if u think u can attain his physique in 3 years natty.