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Thread: Is jeff willet natty or not??
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07-04-2011, 12:41 AM #31
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07-04-2011, 12:52 AM #32
So you would say that taking PHs would still make you a natural? Cause they are things out there like superdrol, DMZ, and Phera Plex....yeah noway those should be count as natural.
hahahahah...that made me lol.
Is he peptide free also? Cause peptides can do a lot of stuff too...just saying
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07-04-2011, 12:57 AM #33
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07-04-2011, 01:11 AM #34
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07-04-2011, 01:16 AM #35
why do you guys care one way or the other?
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07-04-2011, 01:17 AM #36
He build a phenomenal physique long before pro-hormones were even on the market. Whether he's technically "natural" imo is irrelevant. He built a championship physique that surpassed what most believe is possible with out and drugs or pro-hormones. (Again him and Lacour didn't take pro-hormones until later in they're careers).
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07-04-2011, 01:59 AM #37
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07-04-2011, 02:15 AM #38
Again it all depends if they are using currently or have used. If you are using pro-hormones or peptides your not natural while you are on them. If you stop taking them and 5-10 years later you want to say your "natural" I don't see a problem with that. As long as you only did a few cycles, nothing crazy obviously.
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07-04-2011, 02:29 AM #39
Man Locketts Quad imbalance is terrible in that photo!
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07-04-2011, 08:48 AM #40
He's probably natty.
Last edited by Sandpig; 07-04-2011 at 08:49 AM.
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07-04-2011, 09:26 AM #41
Of course hes not.
Naturally you can be big without having low bodyfat (bb competition levels ) or ripped but not having decent size.
Having both even with awesome genetics is allmost a questionable .
Not taking in account the things above, the reason im saying hes not natural is becouse of the muscle look.
You can not get that density and hardness. Having that low digits naturally makes the body have a flat look no matter how many carbs.Last edited by Sieve; 07-04-2011 at 09:27 AM.
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07-04-2011, 10:21 AM #42
O damn i thought this thread was gonna be on page 3 when i woke up this morning, seems like everyone thinks something differently.
I really believe him for some reason, when he talks in that video addressing everything he makes a good point that when he first competed at 19 years old he was a light heavy, and in his last show after 10+ years of hard training he still competed as a light heavy, didn't put on that much weight scale wise.
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07-04-2011, 12:16 PM #43
Well no freaking joke prohormones aren't the same as taking 5,000mg test, deca, tren, winny, insulin, synthol, and growth. I'm not a complete moron. There are some pretty stout pro hormones out there. I don't know what was available back in the early 2000's but saying someone is natty when they've used prohormones is silly if you ask me.
From Wikipedia: A typical prohormone is intended to be a precursor of an anabolic steroid like testosterone, which is taken in order to boost the bodys available hormone supply. These precursors are intended to be converted to full, active hormones via an enzymatic process that occurs during metabolism, typically resulting in the addition of whichever atoms happen to be missing from the chemical structure of the compound.
Not sure how that's natty, but you can believe whatever you want.
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07-04-2011, 12:52 PM #44
From risktaker's link (2nd post in the thread):
http://jeffwillet.blogspot.com/2009/...ne-debate.html
"I didn’t touch a pro hormone until after 1999. By that time I had already won multiple state titles, took 5th at the NPC Teen Nationals (behind the likes of some very big names currently competing at the highest level of the IFBB) AND won the 1999 Team Universe Light Hvy Weight division."
Shit, in 1999, I think we're talking about androstenedione, androdiol and maybe the nor's of those?... (Not much else...)
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07-04-2011, 02:39 PM #45
^^^My point exactly. Either way they didn't better his career
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