PEG MGF results

**Mr.Dedication** · 07-04-2011, 01:15 PM

every damn search I do on peg meg I get results from 2007 and it's kinda pissing me off.

Have any of you guys tried PEG MEG and if so for how long, what dose, and what was your results?

I'm sorry that I'm asking for a lot of details but I'm just trying to get some idea from it and to have a good thread so in future other people can refer to it.

Thank you guys!

**GarlicChicken** · 07-05-2011, 12:43 AM

I'm assuming you're talking about PEG MGF?

**Mr.Dedication** · 07-05-2011, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by GarlicChicken

I'm assuming you're talking about PEG MGF?

Yeah that's what I meant bud. Damn I have no idea why the word "PEG MEG" is stuck in my effing head...it's screwing me up. I wish an admin would change the title of the thread so we get something going.

Sorry about messing up the title.

**GarlicChicken** · 07-05-2011, 05:23 PM

Yeah I'm actually using it right now. 100mcg approx. 1 hour pre-workout. Been working out 4 days/week and I only have been taking on training days. I have been getting good pumps that stay instead of going back down after a few hours. Kinda like BC said in the thread I started about it, you stay "full" all the time. I've been dieting while using it, and I have gained a little size. No weight, but the mirror and the tape don't lie.

Oh, and I'm in PCT with clomid after a short oral only cycle (6 weeks). No TRT or anything. Also running GHRP-6/mod GRF 100mcg/50mcg 2x/day respectively. Diet is 2300cal 300pro/100carb/80fat

**Mr.Dedication** · 07-07-2011, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by GarlicChicken

Yeah I'm actually using it right now. 100mcg approx. 1 hour pre-workout. Been working out 4 days/week and I only have been taking on training days. I have been getting good pumps that stay instead of going back down after a few hours. Kinda like BC said in the thread I started about it, you stay "full" all the time. I've been dieting while using it, and I have gained a little size. No weight, but the mirror and the tape don't lie.

Oh, and I'm in PCT with clomid after a short oral only cycle (6 weeks). No TRT or anything. Also running GHRP-6/mod GRF 100mcg/50mcg 2x/day respectively. Diet is 2300cal 300pro/100carb/80fat

So would you stack it with DES or it wouldn't be worth it. How much size have you gained and do you eat afterward taking it...or before?

**GarlicChicken** · 07-07-2011, 02:43 PM

I've gained 1/4" around the bi's, flexed and cold. I don't really pay attention to weight, as its the mirror that tells the truth (plus my scale is broke). I don't know about the stacking with DES, I am thinking no, as I believe when it is injected it takes on the same properties as IGF-1.

I shoot it, wait 30 and eat, wait 15 take my pre-wo shake, and go to the gym, where I have a BCAA 10g/WMA 30g shake during workout, and come home shoot ghrp-6/mod grf wait 15 then have a shake with 60g isolate and 10g glutamine, then in another 15 I eat a full meal ground turkey/rice. Wow that was a long run on sentence lol

Oh, I'm also doing it sub-q instead of bilateral IM, just for the hell of it to give it a shot. Seems to be working...

**Mr.Dedication** · 07-10-2011, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by GarlicChicken

I've gained 1/4" around the bi's, flexed and cold. I don't really pay attention to weight, as its the mirror that tells the truth (plus my scale is broke). I don't know about the stacking with DES, I am thinking no, as I believe when it is injected it takes on the same properties as IGF-1.

I shoot it, wait 30 and eat, wait 15 take my pre-wo shake, and go to the gym, where I have a BCAA 10g/WMA 30g shake during workout, and come home shoot ghrp-6/mod grf wait 15 then have a shake with 60g isolate and 10g glutamine, then in another 15 I eat a full meal ground turkey/rice. Wow that was a long run on sentence lol

Oh, I'm also doing it sub-q instead of bilateral IM, just for the hell of it to give it a shot. Seems to be working...

Wow 1/4" of an inch it's no joke...I'm mean it's a hell of a lot cheaper than igf too. How come you take WMA intra-workout?

**GarlicChicken** · 07-10-2011, 06:20 PM

For the energy more than anything. I like taking in carbs during my workout, gives me a lot more endurance.

Yeah, a 1/4 is significant. I am also running GHRPs and mod grf, I think there is a synergy going on there. I've been on the GHRPs for 2 months, and I am starting to actually notice a difference other than sleep. Seems like I'm staying lean and really keeping the muscle with them.

**956Vette** · 07-11-2011, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by Mr.Dedication

every damn search I do on peg meg I get results from 2007 and it's kinda pissing me off.

I have generally thought it was near impossible to outline the clinical effectiveness of IGF-1, MGF is a further from having quality data...and obviously feedback. A VERY small niche report and see value from it. Best not to use or worry about MGF imho

**s2h** · 07-11-2011, 04:11 PM

In my research i have found peg mgf to be very effective...the test subject used peg mgf along with igf-1 lr3 with some really nice gains..lean muscle and vascularity were def a plus...

**GarlicChicken** · 07-11-2011, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by s2h

In my research i have found peg mgf to be very effective...the test subject used peg mgf along with igf-1 lr3 with some really nice gains..lean muscle and vascularity were def a plus...

How did you dose it?

**s2h** · 07-11-2011, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by garlicchicken

how did you dose it?

60mcg of igf-1 lr3 pwo..then the same of peg mgf 1 hour later with a whole foods meal..this worked very well..your going to get 100 diff opinions on igf use and timing..but thru research this is what worked for my test subject...

**Mr.Dedication** · 07-12-2011, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by s2h

60mcg of igf-1 lr3 pwo..then the same of peg mgf 1 hour later with a whole foods meal..this worked very well..your going to get 100 diff opinions on igf use and timing..but thru research this is what worked for my test subject...

So Post-workotut
lr3...eat
1 hour later
60mcg of mgf...and then eat

Is that right? Do you remember the gains from it? like how much.

**GarlicChicken** · 07-12-2011, 02:19 PM

So I tried it post wo yesterday 50mcg IM chased with a shake 60g protein and 30g wma. Hit me hard to where I actually felt it, made my hands shake. Way different than subq. Gonna do it today after back/tris to see if it was just a fluke, will let you know later...

**s2h** · 07-12-2011, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by mr.dedication

so post-workotut
lr3...eat
1 hour later
60mcg of mgf...and then eat

is that right? Do you remember the gains from it? Like how much.

igf pwo then 2 scoops of torrent...wait 1 hour..then peg mgf...then eat..

**s2h** · 07-12-2011, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by garlicchicken

so i tried it post wo yesterday 50mcg im chased with a shake 60g protein and 30g wma. Hit me hard to where i actually felt it, made my hands shake. Way different than subq. Gonna do it today after back/tris to see if it was just a fluke, will let you know later...

it worked..you should get that "hit" feeling directly after you drink the shake...

**GarlicChicken** · 07-12-2011, 10:55 PM

Originally Posted by s2h

it worked..you should get that "hit" feeling directly after you drink the shake...

Yeah, definitely the way its supposed to work. Screw that sub-q BS. Just finished my shake and its doing the same thing. Thanks for the help s2h, it seems to work way better this way.

**Mr.Dedication** · 07-18-2011, 11:22 PM

I'm thinking of doing 50mcg igf and 50mcg PEG MGF...too low?

**GarlicChicken** · 07-19-2011, 12:02 AM

Originally Posted by Mr.Dedication

I'm thinking of doing 50mcg igf and 50mcg PEG MGF...too low?

I've been running 50mcg of PEG MGF and its doing it's job. Pretty cool stuff. I look bigger but my weight is dropping now. Seems to be doing its job...

**Mr.Dedication** · 07-19-2011, 12:22 AM

Originally Posted by GarlicChicken

I've been running 50mcg of PEG MGF and its doing it's job. Pretty cool stuff. I look bigger but my weight is dropping now. Seems to be doing its job...

Dude have I ever told you that I love you. Like srsly your one of the most most helpful people I've ever meet.

**GarlicChicken** · 07-19-2011, 01:23 AM

Originally Posted by Mr.Dedication

Dude have I ever told you that I love you. Like srsly your one of the most most helpful people I've ever meet.

That was a little homo lol. No seriously though thank you. I think I'm a little like you in that I study the hell out of stuff before I put it in my body. I want to know exactly what these compounds are and how and why it works. I guess that's why I'm studying to be a biochemist I kinda enjoy this stuff. Good luck with your peps man they've been treating me well...

**s2h** · 07-19-2011, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by mr.dedication

i'm thinking of doing 50mcg igf and 50mcg peg mgf...too low?

that should work well for you in your research...

**Sector** · 08-04-2011, 12:59 PM

Ill toss my experience in there, for what its worth of course.

Ive been on IGF-1 lr3 or 3 weeks now, been having alot of fun dosing it preworkout. Recently around the end of week 2 I decided to transition into a recomp that favored cutting for the remaining weeks of my IGF.

I started shooting it post workout and limiting my daily carbs to 100-150 grams. Immediatly I started to feel far less pumped but not entirely flat, just a noticable loss of tightness and even a little strength loss.

I added in PEG MGF 4 days ago shooting it on my off days only at 400mcg and at the same time switched my workout routine from 5 on 1 off to 2 on 1 off to compensate for less calories to recover. As soon as I added the PEG MGF I noticed a significant bounce back in fullness without adding in more carbs, if anything I upped my protein and began to remain under 100g of carbs a day. Ive done two injections of PEG MGF now and so far from the little experience I have with it, I beleive it should be used with a restricted caloric diet. Time will tell.

Edit - Correction unless you are attempting to utilize the synergy between MGF and IGF for growth, I would imagine PEG MGF is better suited for mild body recompisition/maintaining lean mass and lifts when used alone.

**Mr.Dedication** · 08-08-2011, 11:43 AM

I'm going to get DES and PEG MGF in the mail today...after how long should I cycle off(which I don't ever want to cycle off of DES but if I have too I will).

I'm going to try this and please feel free to give me your input on it...

50mcg(bilateral) of DES
workout
100mcg of 1295 w/o DAC, 100mcg of GHRP-2, and 500mcg of HGH frag
Cardio
eat
50mcg of PEG MGF(IM) wait an hour
eat

thoughts?

**GarlicChicken** · 08-08-2011, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by Mr.Dedication

I'm going to get DES and PEG MGF in the mail today...after how long should I cycle off(which I don't ever want to cycle off of DES but if I have too I will).

I'm going to try this and please feel free to give me your input on it...

50mcg(bilateral) of DES
workout
100mcg of 1295 w/o DAC, 100mcg of GHRP-2, and 500mcg of HGH frag
Cardio
eat
50mcg of PEG MGF(IM) wait an hour
eat

thoughts?

I would say cardio>MGF>eat immediately after shot...that way it helps utilize the food better

**Milas** · 08-08-2011, 08:31 PM

So MGF should be used same day as IGF, just several hours later? I thought MGF was supposed to be on off days?

**Sector** · 08-10-2011, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by Milas

So MGF should be used same day as IGF, just several hours later? I thought MGF was supposed to be on off days?

Everything I have read and the way my researchs subject is currently doing it is IGF on workout days and MGF on off days. However, I am using IGF-1 LR3 and PEG MGF. The idea is your body doesnt create MGF on offdays so its beneficial to supplement it at that time and still take advantage of your natural MGF post workouts.

It may be a different story with IGF DES, really comes down to personal preference and trial and error. Ive had great success with my current research protocol.

**nsp** · 08-10-2011, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by s2h

it worked..you should get that "hit" feeling directly after you drink the shake...

Does your subject run the cycle on and off the MGC like the IGF or can the MGF be ran indefinitely?

**s2h** · 08-10-2011, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by nsp

Does your subject run the cycle on and off the MGC like the IGF or can the MGF be ran indefinitely?

my test subject runs them the same days...for 4 weeks..then takes 4 weeks off...

**Milas** · 08-10-2011, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by Sector

Everything I have read and the way my researchs subject is currently doing it is IGF on workout days and MGF on off days. However, I am using IGF-1 LR3 and PEG MGF. The idea is your body doesnt create MGF on offdays so its beneficial to supplement it at that time and still take advantage of your natural MGF post workouts.

It may be a different story with IGF DES, really comes down to personal preference and trial and error. Ive had great success with my current research protocol.

That's what I thought. So, if I workout in the morning, I could take MGF mid day when MGF levels are lower and get some benefit if I'm using DES. I can also take MGF on off days too.

I'll have to get around to researching that, and see how it works. I'm thinking PEG MGF too.

**nsp** · 08-10-2011, 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by s2h

my test subject runs them the same days...for 4 weeks..then takes 4 weeks off...

So would you say there's a receptor down regulation concern with PEG mgf as there is with the IGF's?

**s2h** · 08-10-2011, 10:02 PM

Originally Posted by nsp

So would you say there's a receptor down regulation concern with PEG mgf as there is with the IGF's?

in the long run ..yes..so thats why you want to research your igf and peg mgf for 4 weeks and then take a break for 4 weeks..in between a pep like mod grf would be a good choice..and mixing in a folli research run would be good also...

**Mr.Dedication** · 08-11-2011, 01:04 AM

My reasearch did 60mg right post workout and then I feed it rice and chicken. I gave it to him in IM but it didn't HIT HIT me. Maybe I'm miss understand the hit term. It's bicep feel harder though

**nsp** · 08-17-2011, 07:22 PM

how's about this: is there any synergistic benefits to running the igf (des or lr3) at the sime time as the peg mgf or would it make just as much since to run the peg mgf the 4 weeks off of the igf and then run the igf the 4 off of the peg mgf and so on?

**nsp** · 09-19-2011, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by nsp

how's about this: is there any synergistic benefits to running the igf (des or lr3) at the sime time as the peg mgf or would it make just as much since to run the peg mgf the 4 weeks off of the igf and then run the igf the 4 off of the peg mgf and so on?

bump 4 dis rite hrr...

**GarlicChicken** · 09-20-2011, 10:48 AM

I have no idea man. I noticed the effects of PEG MGF seemed to drop off after 3 weeks though. Other than that I have no idea. This would be good to know, because if a guy could go back and forth between IGF 1 and MGF you could make gains with minimal to no aas...then add folli, ace, whatnot, and I would think you would have a significantly lowered health risk whilst still gaining. Of course we don't know the long term of this stuff, but it seems for now that they are better on the blood pressure, HPTA, liver, and so on.