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    Default Peptides for cutting(Smart people GTFIH, please)

    Ok I'm almost done with this cycle and I had ONE cheat meal couple of weeks ago but it was so big that fucked everything up :,(

    Anyways I want to continue my cut until I hit 6% bodyfat but I'm a little confused with which peptides.

    GHRP6- so I've read this amazing thing will help me keep my muscles, get cut, and maybe even add some put it also stimulates your ghrelin gland so you get hungry a lot more which I don't want during cut.

    GHRP2- pretty much the same thing but stimulates the ghrelin gland a lot less than the GHRP6

    CJC1295- I think I've seen that it could increase your test level but...shit I'm blank ATM, sorry. Just woke up

    Melatonin II-helps you tan and kills my appetite

    HGH fragment- ok this one apparently is the shit. Part of HGH without most of the bad side effects. I just started studying last night but apparently the 177 is better than 176.


    What do you guys thing would be the best thing for cutting? There is couple more but I just woke up and can't think of all of them.

    One thing I'm worried about is getting GH guts or swollen stomach. Especially with hgh fragment. Is that possible or only igf-1 could cause that?

    Thanks guys!

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    Replace the GHRP6 or 2 with ipamorelin if you are at all concerned with ghrelin stim. Dose the same as the 6 or 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Dedication View Post
    Ok I'm almost done with this cycle and I had ONE cheat meal couple of weeks ago but it was so big that fucked everything up :,(

    Anyways I want to continue my cut until I hit 6% bodyfat but I'm a little confused with which peptides.

    GHRP6- so I've read this amazing thing will help me keep my muscles, get cut, and maybe even add some put it also stimulates your ghrelin gland so you get hungry a lot more which I don't want during cut.

    GHRP2- pretty much the same thing but stimulates the ghrelin gland a lot less than the GHRP6

    CJC1295- I think I've seen that it could increase your test level but...shit I'm blank ATM, sorry. Just woke up

    Melatonin II-helps you tan and kills my appetite

    HGH fragment- ok this one apparently is the shit. Part of HGH without most of the bad side effects. I just started studying last night but apparently the 177 is better than 176.


    What do you guys thing would be the best thing for cutting? There is couple more but I just woke up and can't think of all of them.

    One thing I'm worried about is getting GH guts or swollen stomach. Especially with hgh fragment. Is that possible or only igf-1 could cause that?

    Thanks guys!
    Insulin and overeating will cause a gut, not these peptides.

    Frag is good for fatloss, but you must take it on an empty stomach, do cardio, and then not eat for another 30-60mins for your freed fatty acids to be utilized.

    ghrp6 will stimulate hunger and is typically used in a bulk, but can be used in a cut, just like any steroid can be used in a cut. But it can make you ravenously hunger. It will also stimulate prolactin and cortisol to a degree which can inhibit fat loss.

    ghrp2 doesn't increase hunger as much, but still causes a rise in prolactin and cortisol

    You DO NOT want to use regular cjc1295 as it causes a gh bleed which mimics how gh is released in a female. You want to use cjc1295 W/out DAC as this allows for better/more frequent gh pulses.

    ghrp2, 6, and ipamorelin (which I am currently using) are all ghrp (growth hormone releasing peptides) and the ipa is the 'cleanest' w/the fewest sides. Typical doses are 100mcg 3x/day (bodybuilding/fatloss purposes) OR 100mcg before bed (fatloss purposes, anti-aging). I have not noticed an increase in hunger on the ipa.

    You would also want to include a ghrh (growth hormone releasing hormone) with a ghrp as they have a synergistic effect w/eachother as one causes the release of your natural growth hormone and the other causes a huge spike in said gh.

    As common ghrh is the aforementioned cjc1295 w/out dac which would also be dosed at 100mcg 3x/day along with your choice of ghrp.
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    i have used igf-1 lr3 for fat loss..it is very effective..you just have to use the corect protocal with it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by s2h View Post
    i have used igf-1 lr3 for fat loss..it is very effective..you just have to use the corect protocal with it....
    I agree with this wholeheartedly, BUT, Mr. Dedication, from what I've read it is not a good idea to run igf with other peps as this creates a negative feedback loop of your own igf and gh.

    Also, a good igf protocol includes slamming some carbs immediately after injecting, while with other peps you should not consume carbs for at least 30 mins. So running them together could get complicated if you try to take both PWO as one demands carbs, but the other is against it.




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    Quote Originally Posted by dre23 View Post
    while with other peps you should not consume carbs for at least 30 mins...

    The gh release from CJC1295 and Ipamorelin will be blunted if carbs/fats are consumed within the 30 min window.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGent View Post
    Replace the GHRP6 or 2 with ipamorelin if you are at all concerned with ghrelin stim. Dose the same as the 6 or 2.
    That's the fucking name! I searched for 15 minutes and I could not remember the name of it. Ipamorelin...thanks man

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGent View Post
    The gh release from CJC1295 and Ipamorelin will be blunted if carbs/fats are consumed within the 30 min window.
    I believe we are saying the same thing, but thanks for clarifying.




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    Quote Originally Posted by dre23 View Post
    Insulin and overeating will cause a gut, not these peptides.

    Frag is good for fatloss, but you must take it on an empty stomach, do cardio, and then not eat for another 30-60mins for your freed fatty acids to be utilized.

    ghrp6 will stimulate hunger and is typically used in a bulk, but can be used in a cut, just like any steroid can be used in a cut. But it can make you ravenously hunger. It will also stimulate prolactin and cortisol to a degree which can inhibit fat loss.

    ghrp2 doesn't increase hunger as much, but still causes a rise in prolactin and cortisol

    You DO NOT want to use regular cjc1295 as it causes a gh bleed which mimics how gh is released in a female. You want to use cjc1295 W/out DAC as this allows for better/more frequent gh pulses.

    ghrp2, 6, and ipamorelin (which I am currently using) are all ghrp (growth hormone releasing peptides) and the ipa is the 'cleanest' w/the fewest sides. Typical doses are 100mcg 3x/day (bodybuilding/fatloss purposes) OR 100mcg before bed (fatloss purposes, anti-aging). I have not noticed an increase in hunger on the ipa.

    You would also want to include a ghrh (growth hormone releasing hormone) with a ghrp as they have a synergistic effect w/eachother as one causes the release of your natural growth hormone and the other causes a huge spike in said gh.

    As common ghrh is the aforementioned cjc1295 w/out dac which would also be dosed at 100mcg 3x/day along with your choice of ghrp.
    I've heard that overeating will cause it but what I'm wondering is how do obese people, which I used to be, eat a lot their entire life time and then lose a bunch of weight and have flat abs.

    SO cjc1295 without DAC is better? I though I had read that with DAC was better but that could be my misunderstand of it.

    So would it be good to stack ipamorelin with HGH fragment?

    Quote Originally Posted by s2h View Post
    i have used igf-1 lr3 for fat loss..it is very effective..you just have to use the corect protocal with it....
    Ooooo that's expensive! Doesn't the one with lr3 have insulin mimicking effects?



    Thanks for all the help guys. BTW I have Osta(a little), S4, clen, and t3 on hand if those could help

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Dedication View Post
    I've heard that overeating will cause it but what I'm wondering is how do obese people, which I used to be, eat a lot their entire life time and then lose a bunch of weight and have flat abs.

    SO cjc1295 without DAC is better?
    I though I had read that with DAC was better but that could be my misunderstand of it.

    So would it be good to stack ipamorelin with HGH fragment?



    Ooooo that's expensive! Doesn't the one with lr3 have insulin mimicking effects


    Thanks for all the help guys. BTW I have Osta(a little), S4, clen, and t3 on hand if those could help
    if without dac is better, if you would like a detailed reason why, go to datbtrues site and find out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Dedication View Post
    Anyways I want to continue my cut until I hit 6% bodyfat but I'm a little confused with which peptides.
    Modified GRF 1-29 combined with either GHRP6 or GHRP2

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    Quote Originally Posted by BiggTexx View Post
    Modified GRF 1-29 combined with either GHRP6 or GHRP2
    this! I'm running this until I die or real GH becomes way less expensive...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ritch View Post
    if without dac is better, if you would like a detailed reason why, go to datbtrues site and find out.
    searched for it and got noting on that site. Do you mean datatrues cause even that site didn't have anything.

    I found a post in another thread that explained everything very well but I was wondering if ipamorelin would help tighten the skin just like GHRP2&6 does
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    Quote Originally Posted by BiggTexx View Post
    Modified GRF 1-29 combined with either GHRP6 or GHRP2
    Quote Originally Posted by ritch View Post
    this! I'm running this until I die or real GH becomes way less expensive...
    How are the fat loss effects on it?

    Do you lose more BF on it than when your on a cycle cause I will never spend my money doing a cut on a cycle.

    Also if you run these peptides on a huge bulk do they help you stay lean or minimize the fat gain?


    Sorry I got too many questions

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    Quote Originally Posted by ritch View Post
    this! I'm running this until I die or real GH becomes way less expensive...
    Are you running this en tandem with any GH? Or just them by themselves? Do you feel it's comparable to gh and if so how much?




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