Women's Open Steroid Discussion

[captaincardio58]

Also orals don't require a needle, which has a greater association w/ "hardcore steroids",, requires procuring needles as well, and injecting yourself, whereas an oral is just popping a pill. Also the orals, anavar, winstrol, and back in the day / recently, oral primo, are those w/ the lesser sides, the shorter half-lives and reasonably affordable & readily available.

For guys, often the volumes of these that they need to get results could make it like multiple handfuls of pills, that can become expensive, so its more cost-effective to use the longer esters, injectibles. Guys are usually more interested in mass gains vs cutting and it seems the general consensus that test of some sort should be included in a cycle to get results. Guys who ask about "orals only" usually don't come out w/ a 'Yea man, that's a great cycle". There aren't great gains from the orals options (maybe dbol or anadrol). The liver impact of orals is also concern, and again in the amounts that would be needed, bigger impact.

that makes a lot of sence, the first time i used the guy who was helping told me injectables were the way to go just based on liver saftey and such, the only orals ive ever used was anavar and i was up to bout 40 mg a day ihad the 10 mg i beleive then, i def agree most male bodybuilders/powerlifters ect wont speak to highly of an oral cycle unless they are afraid of needles lil poke poke haha, speaking of that dont a lot of women use GH pre contest??

[Carolyn Bryant]

Sister Steel, I heard your interview on Off Topic. You are the bomb girl! We tried to find a contact email for you. I have a close friend who wants to meet you. And thanks for your input about Masteron.

[GirlyMuscle]

Are there aas that are better for dieting and ones better for bulking?

Let me rephrase this....I know steriods are not for fat loss, however, they are used during cutting to keep from losing muscle. Obviously, during a bulk to build. That being said...are there steriods that are better for cutting and retaining muscle and others that are better for bulking and building?

[Lee Penman]

Let me rephrase this....I know steriods are not for fat loss, however, they are used during cutting to keep from losing muscle. Obviously, during a bulk to build. That being said...are there steriods that are better for cutting and retaining muscle and others that are better for bulking and building?

Primo, EQ, Winstrol and Anavar are all good when it comes to cutting cycles. And of course Clen which has anabolic as well as cutting properties(especially in women) Primo is also one of the few drugs that works well on relatively low calorie diets.
Bulking? You could still use Primo and Anavar but NPP may be better (combined with Anavar). Of course, the more adventurous would go with EQ and the VERY adventurous would add Test Prop...and I know you are out there!

[Lee Penman]

Its seems women use more orals then males is that for a perticular reason?? Obviousley you can control your sides by taking orals just by decreasing a dose is that the only reason?? I def wanna learn a bit more about all this

I agree with Sassy on this. The needle issue is a big thing for a lot of women Taking an oral is just like popping a vitamin...it doesn't seem to have the same stigma attached. Plus I know a LOT of women who fear needles like a contest dieter fears cupcakes!!

[Lee Penman]

I love the way we are beginning to open up on this issue...free discussion is education and education is what we need!
Thanks to alll who have participated so far and keep them coming...

[Lee Penman]

ill ask a few common questions that im sure many may have.

what is a good 1st time drug?

what can i expect from a 1st cycle?

what is a good precontest and bulk cycle?

gh for women?

are thier sides of taking anti estrogens?

Hold tight...I think you just triggered a full article. Coming soon!

[Por2gue]

Quote:
Originally Posted by sassy69
If your diet & training program aren't getting you the results you want, then the drugs will only make it worse.

Would you elaborate or give an example of this?
Ex: Girl bitches about can't lose weight (mostly because isn't consistent w/ diet). Boyfriend says "Just use some winstrol - it will lean you out & tone you up". Start taking winstrol. Since diet sucks, and not lean already, just end up "thicker", more acne, potential hair falling out, starts wondering why her period stopped, etc. The point is people looking for quicky fixes vs taking the time to establish the diet & training.

Great post Sas!