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    Ok,i have a little time frame of 3 months for a body recomp.Along with test i will run either gh at 4 i.u.s either igf1 at 50 mcg(no money for both)If you were in my place what would you choose?

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    it takes me 2 months to see anything from gh, so although i never tried igf1 i would say its prob better for your time frame.

    Have you used both before?

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    Only igf1 once,but it was during ''cruisin'' 6 weeks,helped me keep my gains and get slghtly leaner

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    Quote Originally Posted by adpolice View Post
    Ok,i have a little time frame of 3 months for a body recomp.Along with test i will run either gh at 4 i.u.s either igf1 at 50 mcg(no money for both)If you were in my place what would you choose?
    4iu gh for 3 months wont do much. igf1 may be a better option. with these low doses id invest the money elsewhere like primo and better food

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe d View Post
    4iu gh for 3 months wont do much. igf1 may be a better option. with these low doses id invest the money elsewhere like primo and better food
    I'm loaded on androgens and my nutrition is spot on.I know gh is low dose at 4 i.u, but what about igf1?

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    Quote Originally Posted by adpolice View Post
    I'm loaded on androgens and my nutrition is spot on.I know gh is low dose at 4 i.u, but what about igf1?
    igf-1 lr3 at 40-60mcg pwo on training days will serve you well..just run it correctly and you will see some nice results as far as vascularity..leaning out..and some added size..

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    id be looking closer to the 80-100mcg mark

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe d View Post
    id be looking closer to the 80-100mcg mark
    40-60mcg is plenty for most...like anything ped..most peeps over do it..the protocal when using it is the key...gotta have the right timing and the correct carb source to make your research go bling...

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    Quote Originally Posted by s2h View Post
    40-60mcg is plenty for most...like anything ped..most peeps over do it..the protocal when using it is the key...gotta have the right timing and the correct carb source to make your research go bling...
    Right after training along with 40-60 fast digesting carbs and 40 grms of whey hydrolyzate.What do you think?Or a serving of torrent?(my fav post workout product)

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    Quote Originally Posted by adpolice View Post
    Right after training along with 40-60 fast digesting carbs and 40 grms of whey hydrolyzate.What do you think?Or a serving of torrent?(my fav post workout product)
    Yep...2 scoops of torrent is the best chased I have found in my research...don't wait long pwo...the sooner the better...

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    Quote Originally Posted by adpolice View Post
    I'm loaded on androgens and my nutrition is spot on.I know gh is low dose at 4 i.u, but what about igf1?
    I've been using GH at 2iu per day for just over 2 months with excellent results. My diet is spot on, but it doesn't take that long to see the results of GH, nor does it take a high dose. I tried 4iu, but was getting to much water retention. If you have good GH the results come quick, provided everything else is in order, but they do get better the longer you use it. I would use the GH over IGF-1.

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    I have been pondering this question lately to we all know if you ask people everyone will say gh kicks igf1s ass but is this really correct? especially the the des igf seems to be better to. I know when I ran it it made a noticible difference and its very cheap. I sometimes wonder if the price and lore of what the pros take skew are veiw on how good a compound is I mean if ig1 melts fat off and adds muscle how much better can gh really be? I do know gh is proven with use of the top pro bodybuilders but that does not mean it a lot better?

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    and mabey when you talking gym rats dosages such as 4ius a day and igf in similar dosages there is not much difference. I dont know would love to hear from someone in the know that isnt just rehashing the same old shit thats passed down.
    Last edited by chess315; 07-10-2011 at 04:23 PM.

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    gh is better. gh has its own very anabolic effects plus it increases igf1. 2iu of gh will not do much when compared to the effects of say 10-15iu. 10-15iu is where the real quality effects start to dominate over aas. the right combination of other compounds, diet, and training will of course make a difference in its effects. 50mcg of igf1 is a pretty low dose unless your igf1 is already down. if your healthy and on aas, a good diet, and training program your igf1 levels should already be on the higher end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joe d View Post
    gh is better. gh has its own very anabolic effects plus it increases igf1. 2iu of gh will not do much when compared to the effects of say 10-15iu. 10-15iu is where the real quality effects start to dominate over aas. the right combination of other compounds, diet, and training will of course make a difference in its effects. 50mcg of igf1 is a pretty low dose unless your igf1 is already down. if your healthy and on aas, a good diet, and training program your igf1 levels should already be on the higher end.
    Since the majority of people will never be able to afford that, I think the igf will get more nods due to greater available feedback and accesability of the product...

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