Official keto thread

**Frosty** · 07-27-2009, 12:33 AM

Originally Posted by Frizzy

I would have to disagree with you man... You need to be in 14 day no matter what. Some people take more time then other to completely switch into a keto state. My advice wait the 14 days out THIS is part of the DIET and you NEED to follow it.

Your body will adapt to the diet either way. If you have the carbs a little sooner it just takes a little more time to get strong adaptation. Even with the 2 weeks wait it'll take 4-5 weeks for a strong adaptation. If you really wanted to accelerate adaptation then just go 3-4 weeks with no carbs

Poliquin seems to think 12 days is fine, so it's not like there is a magic number of *definitely* 2 weeks that you HAVE to follow. This diet is a bit more flexible than it's made out to be.

**Frosty** · 07-27-2009, 12:33 AM

Originally Posted by cobra

Hey guys, will someone help me to learn how to mix the true protein right? I don't have a clue, need it zero carb of course..

What are you mixing? The cold filtered isolate is zero carb and so is the micellar casein.

**cobra** · 07-27-2009, 08:22 AM

Do you make/mix your own custom blend, or just buy one they've made. I'm just a little lost..If you do make your own, how much of each do you use?

**Mr. Hyde** · 07-27-2009, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by Frosty

Your body will adapt to the diet either way. If you have the carbs a little sooner it just takes a little more time to get strong adaptation. Even with the 2 weeks wait it'll take 4-5 weeks for a strong adaptation. If you really wanted to accelerate adaptation then just go 3-4 weeks with no carbs

Poliquin seems to think 12 days is fine, so it's not like there is a magic number of *definitely* 2 weeks that you HAVE to follow. This diet is a bit more flexible than it's made out to be.

x2, Lyle Mcdonald wrote in his book "The Ketogenic Diet" it takes over 30 days do be in a deep ketogenic state.

**Mr. Hyde** · 07-27-2009, 10:11 AM

Frosty, is it a bad idea to go low fat on the day of my cheat meal?? I dont have it the last meal because me and my cousion go out in the late afternoon. Its like my 3rd meal and afterwards ive always went low fat. Im wondering if i should do that or not.

**Frosty** · 07-27-2009, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by cobra

Do you make/mix your own custom blend, or just buy one they've made. I'm just a little lost..If you do make your own, how much of each do you use?

I make my own. 65% cold filtered whey 35% micellar casein.

**Frosty** · 07-27-2009, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by Mr. Hyde

Frosty, is it a bad idea to go low fat on the day of my cheat meal?? I dont have it the last meal because me and my cousion go out in the late afternoon. Its like my 3rd meal and afterwards ive always went low fat. Im wondering if i should do that or not.

I wouldn't call that a bad idea, no.

**Frosty** · 07-27-2009, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by Mr. Hyde

x2, Lyle Mcdonald wrote in his book "The Ketogenic Diet" it takes over 30 days do be in a deep ketogenic state.

And anecdotally people seem to notice that around week 5 the diet becomes much much easier.

**Frizzy** · 07-27-2009, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by Frosty

And anecdotally people seem to notice that around week 5 the diet becomes much much easier.

I have to agree with this 100%. Frosty quick question.... Do you feel that people worry extremly to much if they are in keto state after refeeds rather then just being worried about being in a calorie deficent the day after?

**Frosty** · 07-27-2009, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by Frizzy

I have to agree with this 100%. Frosty quick question.... Do you feel that people worry extremly to much if they are in keto state after refeeds rather then just being worried about being in a calorie deficent the day after?

Yes. Ketosis or strong ketosis is not needed to lose fat on low carb diets. It's totally over-rated.

**Fredp** · 07-28-2009, 01:09 AM

I was just wondering if it would be ok to use Kool Aid Unsweetend packets with crystal light since there isn't anything in them no maltodextrin no nothing really

**Frosty** · 07-28-2009, 02:57 AM

Originally Posted by Fredp

I was just wondering if it would be ok to use Kool Aid Unsweetend packets with crystal light since there isn't anything in them no maltodextrin no nothing really

Yes that's okay. Not ideal health-wise but okay. I use it with vanilla protein to make some cool protein shakes.

**ruffiny89** · 07-28-2009, 07:09 AM

Originally Posted by Frosty

Yes that's okay. Not ideal health-wise but okay. I use it with vanilla protein to make some cool protein shakes.

what is wrong health wise?

**Isvind** · 07-28-2009, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by Fredp

I was just wondering if it would be ok to use Kool Aid Unsweetend packets with crystal light since there isn't anything in them no maltodextrin no nothing really

Which flavor of crystal light doesn't have malto? I checked out three or four flavors yesterday and they all had it so I passed.